• SONAR
  • The SONAR Mac Prototype, a collaboration between Cakewalk and CodeWeavers (p.7)
2017/04/19 22:08:36
ProjectM
Works well here. It was fun and stable! And I loved seeing the Sonar GUI on my Macs. I don't see me ever really using it for other than messing around with z3ta+ and noodle around a bit, but it was fun! We'll see. I'll keep my bootcamp partition for the time being and we still have a PC with Sonar in the other studio. 
2017/04/19 22:09:09
Sycraft
FogAudio
So, I moved away from Windows long ago due to MS paranoid policies and insecurities it poses as a platform that tries (poorly) to make it suitable for IT to manage at the expense of its own users (even when that user exclusively owns and manages the device).

 
Sorry man but if you think Mac is more secure than Windows well.... it isn't. Apple trades ease of use for security. All OSes do to an extent but Apple is one of the ones who does it the most. I just got back from SANS and we saw a number of good examples of this (their handling of unsigned certificates for WiFi, for example). Windows 10 is one of the most secure OSes on the planet currently, it has been hardened extremely well.
 
If you like Mac better, that's fine, but please don't try and justify it as a security decisions. It makes us security pros cringe. Any computer can be set up secure or insecure depending on the user, but Windows is pretty hardened out of the box and is easier to harden further than macOS.
2017/04/19 22:21:54
The Grim
ampfixer
Lifetime updates for $199 was a great deal. Period.




well . . . . . . not quite as good as lifetime for $99, but an ok runner-up i guess
2017/04/19 22:39:06
The Grim
i think they done the right thing, perhaps they never went about it in the right way, and they have admitted as much, but in the end the best for 'almost' all involved.
2017/04/19 22:59:00
coolbass
For me this is the last drop.
I am hugely disappointed and don't feel at all good about this. I feel cheated in a way.
After 15 years of Sonar ( it was my introduction into the DAW world) , while also using Pro Tools, Cubase , Logic etc..., I feel like losing my first love.
 
I have been using Reaper this last month to great satisfaction.
It works well on PC and Mac. Scoring, Warp-markers, ripple-editing etc..actually work.
I was planning on using Sonar ( lifetime updates) and Reaper.
I have a feeling it is gonna be only Reaper.
Sonar works well, but Reaper does better.
And now no Sonar on Mac! CodeWeavers, unbelievable.
 
And now all these windows users judging the state of the mac without proper experience. Pfff....
 
Windows and MacOs have both their pros and cons. It is that simple.
 
Sad story indeed.
 
2017/04/19 23:05:12
THambrecht
I think that no one jumps from ProTools to SONAR. And as I see, Logic has not been further developed for professionals - more for musicians that make music with there iPad.
I think Cakewalks decision is right. Cakewalk would have had to invest many years of development to come close to ProTools for MAC.
We earn our daily money working with SONAR (since over 10 years) on Windows, and therefore I can say that SONAR is a professional DAW. Windows is a OS for Pro's.
Apple turns slowly to a fun-system and away from professionalism.
That MAC was better was 10 years ago. Apple is a sinking ship in the world of Pro's.
 
2017/04/19 23:10:39
The Grim
coolbass
For me this is the last drop.
I am hugely disappointed and don't feel at all good about this.
After 15 years of Sonar ( it was my introduction into the DAW world) , while also using Pro Tools, Cubase , Logic etc..., I feel like losing my first love.
 
I have been using Reaper this last month to great satisfaction.
It works well on PC and Mac. Scoring, Warp-markers, ripple-editing etc..actually work.
I was planning on using Sonar ( lifetime updates) and Reaper.
I have a feeling it is gonna be only Reaper.
Sonar works well, bur Reaper does better.
And now no Sonar on Mac! CodeWeavers, unbelievable.
 
And now all these windows users judging the state of the mac without proper experience. Pfff....
 
Windows and MacOs have both their pros and cons. It is that simple.
 
Sad story indeed.
 


 
use what suits you the best regardless of what it is, reaper is an excellent daw, very powerful and very configurable, if as it sounds you have lifetime updates you are laughing with the ability to switch back at any time during lifetime updates shelf life at no extra expense should sonar at some future stage appeal to you more
2017/04/19 23:30:40
snookerc
I also think it was the right decision.  I'm not sure how much Cakewalk would gain $$ wise from having a Mac version given where things are right now with Apple.  I would rather have them put time and efforts into the Win version.   
2017/04/19 23:34:23
THambrecht
@The grim
I know Reaper.
With Reaper it is not possible to digitaze and restore 585 tapes (reel to reel) for a client with a running time from 1.500 hours. No software running MacOS can do this. MacOs completely fails.
But SONAR does. Therefore SONAR is a perfect DAW and audioworkstation.
For what we do with SONAR - Reaper is a joke.
 
2017/04/19 23:39:50
Rain
 
Every time the idea of a Mac version came up, I was the first to say that Cakewalk should stick to PC - as much as I would have loved a Mac version. It just did not seem to make sense to invest resources developing for Mac.
 
And yet they did announce a Mac version, and, obviously, I was delighted.
 
When they failed to deliver on time, I gave up on the idea - and apparently, I was right to do so.
 
I do feel it's sad for Mr. Anderton to try and use Apple's strategy or lack thereof as an excuse. Cakewalk did announce Sonar for Mac - and if they did so based on conjectures as to what Apple would do next, it's still their mistake. Don't try and deflect that on Apple - that's like adding insult to injury. 
 
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