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2017/12/05 15:35:11
Kamm Schreiner
I agree with skyline_UK. I've also been looking at other DAWs since the news and have come up disappointed and in some cases extremely disappointed with the alternatives. The bottom line for me is that Sonar's feature set and UI just can't be matched for the way I work. I looked at Studio One (which seems to be significantly less feature rich but has a nice UI), Cubase (which is feature rich but its workflow for me  isn't nearly as nice as Sonar), and Ableton (which I haven't given it the scrutiny that I've given the other two yet because there does not seem to be a crossgrade option which would be a showstopper by itself because it is very expensive. It is probably the closest to being as powerful and user friendly as Sonar but does not seem to be as feature rich in my limited analysis.). This is all subjective because everyone's needs and preferences are different, but that's my two cents.
 
My plan for now is to just keep using Sonar Platinum. 
 
With regard to Gibson, I'm certainly not happy, but I think it is safe to assume, though, that Sonar would have died years ago if not for Gibson. So at least we got all the additional development and bug fixing that occurred since they acquired Cakewalk. I feel bad for both companies. I'm sure Gibson didn't acquire Cakewalk to do nothing but shutter it. They had hoped it would be a cash producer and it appears to me that Cakewalk got the needed funds to try to bring it to the top of the DAW list. Unfortunately, features and user friendliness alone don't translate into sales. I'm not saying that those that purchased lifetime updates recently don't have a legitimate gripe. They do. But for me, even though I didn't get updates forever, I certainly got my money's worth. Sonar has improved my productivity in very significant ways. I've owned and used both Cubase and Logic (and tried Reaper which is close to worthless to me) and I will never be sorry with my choice to get Sonar - even with the company being shuttered. My sincerest thanks to the team that developed the program.
2017/12/05 15:42:36
arcoflight
I started using Cakewalk when it first came out...and now after all these years and 6 albums later and tons of work and songs... and it just gets closed down overnight after being sold to Gibson? Why did you buy it then? Bad bad news for anyone using this in a pro setting... and money... and time spent. I am stunned... and sad. Corporations... acquisitions... 
2017/12/05 16:48:01
WallyG
ivanSC
Not sure if this has already been discussed but Overloud are offering to set their plugs as included in sonar free with a revised serial number. Just applied for mine


I received my serial numbers yesterday. Way to go Overloud!
 
Walt
2017/12/05 17:06:36
mkerl
Kamm Schreiner
 I've also been looking at other DAWs since the news and have come up disappointed and in some cases extremely disappointed with the alternatives. The bottom line for me is that Sonar's feature set and UI just can't be matched for the way I work. .........
 
My plan for now is to just keep using Sonar Platinum. 
 
.............. I've owned and used both Cubase and Logic (and tried Reaper which is close to worthless to me) and I will never be sorry with my choice to get Sonar - even with the company being shuttered. My sincerest thanks to the team that developed the program.




That's my experience, too. And I think, there's nothing wrong to stay with Sonar for the next Years. I Use different Progs for photography as well, with yearly Updates and I often skip them, no Prob at all . . . And due to rolling Updates we now have the latest Version of Sonar as possible,  fully packed with features, plugins, loops, Synths . . 
Meanwhile I ' ll look into new Developments like Studio One and Mixcraft, fresh and interesting, who knows what's coming up . . . but I'm sure not interested in the Dino's of the market . . . .
jm2c
 
Have Fun!
Cheers :)
2017/12/05 17:25:18
monadity
Wow. Been using Cakewalk since DOS. Saw this writing on the wall, unfortunately. I had to go take a look at my pretty but useless Opcode Studio 128x just to remind myself of things that have been wrought. Hope everyone left on the team is ok and can find good opportunities to move forward.
2017/12/05 17:47:02
CoteRotie
I was out of the country and just learned about this today. 
 
I have nothing original to add, but just wanted to thank the Cakewalk staff and Craig for all the hard work to not only make SONAR the best DAW out there, but also for the community and accessibility.  I don't think there will ever be a community and DAW like this again.  
 
I'm not shocked (because Gibson) but I was hoping this was one thing that Henry would be able to do right.
 
I'm looking for alternatives as well, for me it's Cubase, Studio One, or Ableton.  I played with REAPER a few years ago so maybe I'll see how it has evolved as well.
 
Good luck to all,  Hope this forum remains active!
2017/12/05 19:46:37
JoeBaermann
celopadua
 
If Apple were to purchase SONAR, they'd probably adapt it so it would become MAC only. They are only able to continue to explore musicians, video makers, and artists in general by offering mac-only softwares. This way, consumers become obliged to overpay whatever price Apple sets on their hardware. When Apple purchased Logic, it was a windows software as well, they changed it in a matter of months.


When I started to use Cakewalk there was only Cubase and ProTools for studio production, ProTools was at that time Mac exclusive and did cost a fortune since a lot of additional hardware modules where required.
Cubase was probably the number one choice, personally I found Cakewalk to have a more straight forward logical setup, not much different to what was in the studio, and it also supported some of Rolands hardware out of the box.
So Apple would be even worse than Microsoft.
2017/12/05 19:59:36
JoeBaermann
Vlar
What about Magix? They bought the Sony stuff: Vegas, Sound Forge, etc.


Magix already owns ACID and Samplitude, can't really see them having any interest with their product lineup.

If Cakewalk could be for both PC and MAC at the same time with ease, I would rather bet on a company like Toontrack.
They have some of the industries best virtual instruments and emulations but no DAW.
2017/12/05 20:04:30
JoeBaermann
I wonder how many of those that say they won't buy anything Gibson actually own one of their guitars.
Personally I will keep an eye out, might need to get my hands on a few spare parts and another LP if the company should go down next year.
2017/12/05 20:07:04
hydemusic
Vlar
What about Magix? They bought the Sony stuff: Vegas, Sound Forge, etc.


I was a Vegas user for years and Magix upped the upgrade price and it's every year for no major upgrades. FYI..Movie Studio Platinum14 does 95% of Vegas Pro14 $79 vs $499.
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