• SONAR
  • Cakewalk Announcement (p.139)
2017/12/31 14:52:36
jjj.fcc
After the bad news, I tried to install as many DAWs as possible (legally, of course). I have the last Sonar Professional, (not Platinum, 'cos I don't need the "extra" stuff). So... I've search for equally other "non-top-editions" DAWs...
 
My list:
 
Studio One 3 Artist (just updated - I've already have it);
Reaper (the only edition - I like that, somehow - still in "evaluation mode");
Samplitude Music Studio (Steam Edition);  
Mixcraft 8 Home Studio (also bought at Steam);
ACID Music Studio 10 (also bought at Steam);
Pro Tools First (free download).
 
Cubase could've been a choice, but is too expensive, for my needs...
 
Well... my impressions...
 
Studio One: lack of VST support... no way...
Pro Tools First: discarded... reasons: AAX only, "cloud" projects, limitations...
ACID: still trying, seems usable, but I don't like the "old look" interface (only positive aspect is that I'm used to Sound Forge, which is somewhat similar). Some of my favorite plugins failed to load.
Samplitude: The most complicated visual interface, for me... Seems that they wanted to put all stuff at the same time, same place... Anyway... still trying.
Mixcraft: I liked very much the look and feel. Easy to see and operate. But a lot of plugins didn't recognize! Still trying to fix that. If I can, it's a good choice!
Reaper: with a Sonar X1 theme, was the best so far. Almost everything in place and working.
 
But none is like Sonar... :(
 
(sorry for my english, if I made some mistake)
2017/12/31 15:25:54
royarn
Happy new year to you all, like most here this forum will be missed when It goes.

Roy
2017/12/31 17:12:08
Zargg
chuckebaby
Happy New year everyone.


Happy New Year, mate
2017/12/31 18:31:34
daveny5
I just wrote iZoptope and asked them to consider taking on Cakewalk Sonar. They seem like a good company. I've used a few of their plug-ins. Coincidentally, they are in Cambridge, MA. Keep your fingers crossed!
2017/12/31 21:50:01
chuckebaby
daveny5
I just wrote iZoptope and asked them to consider taking on Cakewalk Sonar. They seem like a good company. I've used a few of their plug-ins. Coincidentally, they are in Cambridge, MA. Keep your fingers crossed!


I think the baggage that comes with Sonar is what would prevent anyone from buying the Sonar code and keeping it alive.
Its easier for Gibson to cut their losses and write off Cakewalk As a fail on their taxes than it would be to sell to someone like Izotope.
If it were that easy I would pony up the 10,000 dollars myself. Im guessing Gibson wants 100,000+ thousand dollars.
That's probably what they are getting as a failed business write off.
2017/12/31 22:38:57
GreenwoodStudios
This thread has hit a bump and is repeating itself.

If you read thru it clearly a lot of people are bummed out and is the last day of the year, let’s look back:

1) there’s seemingly no 2nd announcement forthcoming answering questions posed here. If anyone was still ‘in’ one would think some sort of update to the ‘status of’ would be presented.

2) how many emails did Cakewalk send ‘us’ with regularity, now there’s nothing. Brandon Ryan I believe stayed tight with Roland. Someone formerly within cake support who lost employement in Boston has told me some fellow former employees now work at iZoptope as well.

3) Considering how close Cakewalk and Intel worked in bring 64bit audio to life one would think that the people in those circles discussed buy/sell options of this ‘intellectual property’ over the course of the past decade.
IMHO if Microsoft wanted the bakers to ‘match’ GarageBand by Apple, it would have already be ~ no?

It seems that while this forum still exsists it’s purpose might be expanded to me. I can't see an email list being released by Gibson of Cakewalk users, it’s private info I believe but this forum can be helpful in getting the community elsewhere and somewhat intact.

Also it would be interesting to develop a list of what end users have found in terms of what Cakewalk products work elsewhere in other DAWs and what stuff fails to work.

Cheers & Stay Warm,
Happy New Year!
2018/01/01 08:07:20
johne53
daveny5
I just wrote iZoptope and asked them to consider taking on Cakewalk Sonar. They seem like a good company. I've used a few of their plug-ins. Coincidentally, they are in Cambridge, MA. Keep your fingers crossed!



It'll be interesting to see if they respond. A few years ago I contacted Universal Audio (UAD) to see if they'd be interested in developing an own-brand DAW. But given that their plugins are used by other peoples' DAW'S, they didn't want to be seen as going into competition. One of my colleagues contacted Waves who took a different view. Waves are now marketing their Tracks Live DAW which is based on the same code used by Mixbus.
 
So different plugin manufacturers obviously have different viewpoints on this... Let us know if you get any response from iZotope.
2018/01/01 10:24:01
penryn
Happy new year to everyone. I'm disappointed to hear, that Sonar is dead. I think, it is the wrong decision by Gibbson. ****!
2018/01/01 10:57:28
mettelus
I had asked iZotope about an in-house DAW almost a year ago now and got this response (March 2017):
 
"At this time there is not any plan to make a iZotope DAW but I would be happy to pass this on to our development team so they can take it into consideration in future product planning."
 
This was more a general question, but Spire was released after that response, so they did venture into new ground. Due to proximity between the two companies, I think it is more likely that iZotope adopt the bakers as individuals than "Cakewalk" as a company.
2018/01/01 11:05:21
jtendero@powerup.com.au
jjj.fcc
Well... my impressions...
 
Studio One: lack of VST support... no way...

Studio One 3, the full version supports VSTs both ver 2 and 3. And it is available cheaply for Sonar users as a crossgrade. Studio One Artist is the low frills version.
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