Quite surprised people are STILL so worried about trashing Sonar. Really? It's a dead DAW, everybody knows it, time to realise none of this matters.
 
Any reputation it had (and imho outside these forums it's reputation was always a buggy DAW with a very dedicated fanbase) is null and void whatever opinion you hold.

deswind
Better the bugs you know than the ones yet to be encountered on another DAW.
I love Sonar and all its bugs.

Well, there are bugs and there are bugs. The kind of bugs that are just an annoyance and which can be worked around, I'll put up with those. Especially when I know there's a possibility of them getting fixed in the future (even though Sonar has a ton of those bugs which never got fixed despite being reported for years). On the other hand, there are the kind of catastrophic bugs which cause you to lose work, and which have no convenient workaround. Sonar has a few of those as well, and they'll never be fixed. 
 

Ddamaged1
i don't understand why they force you to work the midi track by track

as opposed to seeing the whole midi score like you can in sonar's prv.. 

They don't...
You can

stickin
Sadly...
So, now I am wondering how much of my investment in Sonar Platinum and related updates/instruments can be used with Cubase Pro?  And is Steinberg still offering crossgrade pricing for Sonar users?
(sorry if this has been asked already)

Steinberg just extended to 14th January.

sharke

deswind
Better the bugs you know than the ones yet to be encountered on another DAW.
I love Sonar and all its bugs.

Well, there are bugs and there are bugs. The kind of bugs that are just an annoyance and which can be worked around, I'll put up with those. Especially when I know there's a possibility of them getting fixed in the future (even though Sonar has a ton of those bugs which never got fixed despite being reported for years). On the other hand, there are the kind of catastrophic bugs which cause you to lose work, and which have no convenient workaround. Sonar has a few of those as well, and they'll never be fixed. 

Sharke... come on now be real. If Sonar had that many bugs you would have been gone a long time ago. Matter of fact, you wouldn't be here right now. You'd be using that new "90% bug free" DAW of yours that you purchased with a cross grade offer.
 
Not everyone inserts 100 tracks in to their projects.
As a matter of fact, im guessing most of us here (75%) are amateur, hobbyists with about 10 - 40 tracks per project.
Sonar had many little quirks and it also had some long standing bugs But if it were really that bad with "catastrophic bugs" You would have been gone long ago and I would have been right behind you. We both would have been buying new DAW's.
 
Problem solving and trouble tracking (you and I both know very well) can have multiple factors. I might see a bug that you never will because of:
1-  Different hardware, Control surface device
2- I may never use that function the same way you do.
3- I may have a plug in you do not.
 

i think the "deeper" you use sonar the more likely weirdness will start happening...

pwalpwal
i think the "deeper" you use sonar the more likely weirdness will start happening...

I've never known a DAW where that wasn't true !

johne53

pwalpwal
i think the "deeper" you use sonar the more likely weirdness will start happening...

I've never known a DAW where that wasn't true !

I've never known a COMPUTER PROGRAM where that wasn't true !

jjj.fcc
I've never known a COMPUTER PROGRAM where that wasn't true !

Tip. Don't fly planes.

I agree with the above comments, and add my sincere thanks to all those at CW who have been involved in any way with the development and the support that has brought us all this way.  I think I started being a CW user in the late 1990's with CW Pro 7.  Now am on CW Platinum latest (and now last?) version.  I'm totally stunned by the announcement after just catching up on the forum here and had NO idea what had been announced in Nov just a few weeks back.  Closing down doesn't seem like an option - not for any of you at CW, not for any of us at the user-creator level!  I mean what the...  it's taken me THIS LONG to just begin to really start learning to USE this incredible software!  We just CAN'T stop now!
 
My latest HW upgrades included a Presonus Studio 2/6 interface (sweet box!) and a new Acer i7/SSD laptop system (finally, a latency under 10-12ms!)  and as much as I dreaded the thought of having to use Win 10 Home with the Sonar Platinum, boy it all works GREAT.  And I've been a current subscriber to the CW updates, so I had finally felt good about having a studio system that was going to stay current, and hopefully stable.  Well, it is at least for now -  I'm wondering, with no more Sonar updates, will we begin to see issues as Windows keeps updating and potentially introduce something that CW won't be able to patch anymore....  the uncertainty of it all, the inability to get support or any new updates - is an incredible impact to us all.   (will this Forum platform remain here, so that we can at least help each other?)  For my two cents about this - I hope that things can still turn around for CW and that a rebound can happen.  If not right away, in some near future where the world becomes a more sane place... Thank you, CW staff, producers, managers, development and support staff at all levels.  Thank you for all these years where I was always proud to be a "Cakewalk" user and fan!