• SONAR
  • Cakewalk Announcement (p.153)
2018/01/06 00:36:22
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It's always been that way.
2018/01/06 00:55:45
CakeAlexSHere
++ Story of my life.
2018/01/06 01:08:10
bapu
I thoroughly enjoy using SONAR Platinum. I have not experienced many of the bugs that sharke encounters (or others for that matter) and I have projects that range from 30-50+ tracks and maybe as many plugs/VSTi instances. Maybe I use different plugs than him, I couldn't care less what the reason is that he gets those bugs. I've tried to recreate to the best of my ability the problems he's talked about over he years and only on rare occasions have I been able to confirm his findings. 
 
I accept there will be no more SONAR dev (or coffee cups or hover cars). I'm straddling the fence in a positive way. I'm not sad, mad or stressed out. I'm being proactive.
 
I now own Studio One 3 Pro, Reaper 5, Sapmlitude and Mixcraft 8. I don't count Mixbus32C as a DAW, it's a console to me and that's how I intend to continue to use it.
 
Each of those DAWs have some strengths over SONAR but none (yet) beat SONAR by miles (for me). Studio One 3 Pro is ahead in the race though. But even it is shadowed in some minor areas by the other DAWs. Go figure, so far for me, no one DAW does it all.
 
Being a hobbyist I've stated on another forum that I'm in no immediate need to switch to a DAW that does not meet my needs or compromises certain workflow beauties that SONAR has over them.
 
At some point one of those DAWs will pull ahead of SONAR (before or after it actually dies completely) and then I will probably make the full move to them. In the meantime I'll do some solo project experimentation in all of them to see how the day to day use of the DAW shakes out (crashes, workflow killers etc.). If I never had SONAR any one of those DAWs would probably work for me, as I would adapt from day one on how it works, but for now SONAR is my Gold Standard for the way I like to work.
 
 
2018/01/06 01:35:45
hockeyjx
Well said Bapu!
 
I'm in the same boat.
 
At some point, I'll be upgrading the whole DAW & interface, but not until I think it is worth it for what I do.
2018/01/06 01:45:33
sharke
bapu
I thoroughly enjoy using SONAR Platinum. I have not experienced many of the bugs that sharke encounters (or others for that matter) and I have projects that range from 30-50+ tracks and maybe as many plugs/VSTi instances. Maybe I use different plugs than him, I couldn't care less what the reason is that he gets those bugs. I've tried to recreate to the best of my ability the problems he's talked about over he years and only on rare occasions have I been able to confirm his findings. 
 

 
This to me is at the heart of why these problems never got fixed. They were so hard to pin down. The main problem I've ranted about over the years is synths and plugins losing their settings, and I guess that's either tied closely to certain plugins and/or perhaps a certain workflow. If it were the case that everyone was seeing their plugin settings reset, I should imagine the problem would have been a lot easier to fix. But so much of what I (and others) saw in Sonar was a baffling mystery - you often had two people with much the same setup performing much the same actions and getting different results. I thought I was doing something wrong (or going mad) until I heard others reporting exactly the same problems (and finally had the Bakers confirm the problem). I'm now at ease with the idea that other people didn't experience them. However, that doesn't mean they didn't exist, and the problems are as encoded in everyone else's Sonar executable as they are in mine - it just takes a certain set of circumstances or actions to bring them out. In contrast, there was always a camp in the Sonar forum which couldn't help insinuating that perhaps people who experienced this weirdness was doing something wrong, or that they had outdated hardware drivers or even that they were just trying to cause trouble (and throw Sonar in a bad light). That's why I ended up shying away from the main Sonar forum and just hanging out in the Coffee House (or the Beta forum or wherever). 
 
 
2018/01/06 01:49:46
InstrEd
I feel as Bapu does.
I do like some of the gapless audio engines in the newer DAW's but Sonar still feels like home.
I'm getting my feet wet in Samplitude, Tracktion, and I brought Presonus SO3. Don't know where I will land at this moment. Samplitude feels like Sonar 8.5 and the Kraznet's viedoes have helped me immensely. Tracktion I love the
pattern generator. Presonus I'm really just starting to dapple in. But with the JRRshop group buy I thought what the heck. More instrument sounds to toy with
So in all of this mess, I'm looking at the silver lining. I realize there are other DAW's out there
that I like to use. I never would of brought them if Sonar was still being supported. I'll end up learning one of them deeply but use the others for there strengths. 
 
Mixcraft ProStudio 8,  I believe I'll get before and the end of the month too at the sale price. I really dig the performance panel grid. Perfect for some instrumental type canon music I was doing with kids from my child's school.
 
I hope the Cakewalk employees all end up with productive jobs going forward and I thank them for giving us an amazing DAW. Hoping Noel ends up at Microsoft and leads the team to make a CoreAudio type driver for Windows.
I can dream can't I.
Sonar was not perfect, but I still enjoy using it. Even with the notation not being addressed :)
 
I'll miss this forum. I might not of been a high count poster, but I checked the forum several times a day to see what was up. I will miss all of the regular posters that made this forum so great.
We might not of agreed, but I loved the bantering back and forth and I always seemed to learn something.
 
 
2018/01/06 01:52:14
CakeAlexSHere
My experience was different, I managed to log good repro steps for everything, and almost nothing actually happened/it just gathered dust/no fixes.
2018/01/06 02:22:40
bapu
CakeAlexSHere
My experience was different

Again, life in a nutshell.
 
No one size fits all answer for anything.
2018/01/06 02:24:11
CakeAlexSHere
Right. Same old bugs though :)
2018/01/06 02:49:24
hockeyjx
Ever know someone who always needed the last word? Or someone that always thought they were the smartest person anywhere at anytime?
 
I have.
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