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2018/01/06 03:13:56
CakeAlexSHere
hockeyjx
Ever know someone who always needed the last word? Or someone that always thought they were the smartest person anywhere at anytime?
 
I have.


If you feel the need to be heard or to be regarded as a "smart person" then I suggest you contribute something to the discussion. Nobody is standing in your way. I'm not sure if there is an expiration date on this thread.
2018/01/06 03:28:24
hockeyjx
I can be heard all I want, but sometimes it is simply good to listen/just read and absorb what someone is trying to convey in a respectful way. Respect is a big thing. 
 
In this realm, I'm not the "smart person" ...but I can tell who the "smart people" are on this forum. They are the listeners and helpers who offer their time and expertise to help and make this, and any other community, better. Then there are disruptors, whose aim is to not really to further anything particular, but to make everything unpleasant. To beat the dead horse way past the glue in a gluttony of unpleasant exchanges, ultimately hoping that whoever is involved will eventually acquiesce. When really, long term, nothing is gained.
 
Then there are the people in the middle ground, people who sometimes pull out the popcorn to watch the show, occasionally chiming in to call a spade a spade.
 
 
2018/01/06 04:38:05
dubdisciple
I remember when i did the beta thing and experiencing the same problem as sharke but unable to replicate. I doubt problem got fixed but it i have a few od these quirks with every program i use.
2018/01/06 05:34:05
GLG
hockeyjx
 
To beat the dead horse way past the glue in a gluttony of unpleasant exchanges, ultimately hoping that whoever is involved will eventually acquiesce. When really, long term, nothing is gained.
 


Well said.
2018/01/06 06:54:07
StepD
Matron Landslide
StepD
 
You guys are out of control.




If the definition of 'out of control' is stating the facts and telling it like it is, then yes I would agree.


Thank you, yes.
2018/01/06 08:35:43
julianochrisway
I was reading the discussion and conclusions taken that think Cakewalk closed because of the Sonar. Not Cakewalk has actually closed its operations indefinitely in the transition period that Gibson is going through (ie are at great risk and this has nothing to do with Cake).
 
Gibson, a closed-capital company, will need to refinance the debt of 520
Million dollars. Today the company has a debt of securities of US $375 million due on August 1, 2018. An additional US $145 million in bank debt with initial maturity of June 23, 2018. I read it today and it's just facts.
 
Closing Factory/Factory opening
Gibson set out to change one of its three factories to a more appropriate place with a new reality of the company. The Memphis factory in the U.S. will go to a smaller location and plan to sell the entire operation of the site.
 
The company will remain in the current building between the next 18 to 24 months and it is estimated that the value of the sale of the operation rotates around $17 million of dollars.
 
Gibson confirmed yesterday that he will not participate in the Namm 2018. That's right--
The case is very serious, the Gibson is cutting all current costs and needs to refinance its debt as stated above, and change its entire operation strategy. The focus of the company wants to direct its efforts enough on electronic products. Interfaces, headphones, monitors, among other things. This explains why Cakewalk has not yet been sold, in fact they shut down the company's activities indefinitely and still do not know what they will do with it. Probably either going to sell the Cake or change their strategy, I believe they end up selling yet in 2018 1 instead they shut down all operations, they need to urgently settle the debt issue.
 
The sales of Gibson instruments mostly fall immensely, so Gibson had the "brilliant idea" of spending his money buying several companies, she was unable to define her market strategy within her investments and failed to prevent Bleeding from the fall of the instruments. The result is that she's losing control of everything, now she's had to make some tough decisions if she doesn't want to go down for good.
 
So forget conspiracy theories. Cakewalk is closed for Gibson's problems and not on account of bugs. If bugs were something that prevented DAW sales, ProTools wouldn't even sell. Because in every project I do, I have bugs, very different from the Platinum Sonar. My latest project is a 28 track single with many plugins and samples on KONTATK.
 
Anyway, I also believe that some important changes, in case Cake manages to get out of this situation would be important.
 
Price and updates: Need a really cheap version or free not only for Mac as for PC, lost a lot of space for Reaper because of it.
 
Really the Cake took a long time to launch the MAC version (although I don't use Apple products but I'm not dumb or blind, the company needs to get out of the comfort zone).
 
There are actually some structures to be changed and updated in the DAW, such as the way the loops are made, in this regard the FL Studio is far ahead in the construction of loops, there are some strange bugs that loop the sonar to change the BPMs , this is a change of structure as well as the compatability with MIDI controllers. It has no updated preset of new Midi controllers like Artura Keylab Essential for example (which I bought recenemente) to use them to control the DAW. Very different from FL Studio and Live that are always up to date. Another issue that annoys me is that sometimes the loading time to open the program changes, this slightly irritates the scanning of plugins could be more like the FL Studio that works without harming what you are doing and the DAW opens very quickly. Aside from those issues I've highlighted, Sonar is wonderful for me.
 
So that's it, I made this text about my vision of what happened to the company, putting facts on the table, without creating crazy theories.
2018/01/06 11:57:55
fizzicatov2
Chapeau, Julianochrisway! I know by first hand that there are several parties interested In buy Cake. Hope soon.
2018/01/06 12:40:33
chuckebaby
Never mind. good luck guys no matter which DAW you use.
2018/01/06 13:35:00
sabvathayath
Я начал использовать Sonar c 2014 года, у меня есть все популярные DAW но Sonar я любил больше остальных. Вот буквально только что решил получить обновления (рассылки я отключил и об этой хуевой новости ничего не знал) захожу на сайт и охуеваю от того что Sonar все, пиздец! Охуенный подарок от ебаных Gibson на новый год! Рот их ебать!
2018/01/06 13:44:08
igiwigi
Well,
 
I had purchased Cubase Elements to see what it Is like  and decided i made a mistake!!!
Cubase is refunding me and letting me have the Sonar refugee price on 9.5 Pro
I should of done this In first place.
I am cutting my losses and going with Cubase.
No more fussing with Cakewalk.
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