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2018/01/08 20:10:05
Anderton
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
There is no Cakewalk CEO and hasn't been one for over 5 years. I was co-general manager last year and take accountability for the decisions in that year obviously. Regarding the LP's, had I been in charge of the business side this year all I can say is that they would definitely have been an in-app purchases :) Those are amazing plugins and the guys who developed it were top notch. 

 
Frankly, I think if that had happened SONAR would still be around...and had I been in charge of the business side, I'd have created additional income streams. Noel was always looking for ways to get the word out about SONAR. What a lot of people may not know is he is an excellent jazz guitarist (not good, excellent!) so he always looked at SONAR from a practical standpoint.
 
I will always think that when lifetime updates were introduced, Cakewalk was going in the right direction and that the company went off the rails after the lifetime updates, not because of them.
 
 
2018/01/08 20:18:10
bitman
Hi Noel.
 
Thank you for your posts here.
I for one am happy as a clam with my Sonar Platinum and all that went into it.
 
 
2018/01/08 20:34:22
InstrEd
michael diemer
I agree with Cactus. I'm using 8.5 Studio and it's fantastic (for me, of course). I feel no need to buy a new DAW. I did buy Reaper in 2015, and used it until the heinous news about Sonar broke. but then I decided to get my 8.5 Producer working again, since it would be the latest Sonar version I had. It had all the same problems that led me to go to Reaper. So I installed 8.5 Studio. Perfect. I don't know why Studio works and Producer doesn't doesn't. But I can work twice as fast in it than in Reaper. So, unless another DAW is clearly superior to Sonar, why not wait and see what happens? I can see making one purchase, taking advantage of a deal, but buying 2, 3 or more as some people are doing? it just seems like a waste of money. I don't buy something because it's on sale. I but it because I need it. But then, it's your money. And don't forget the time it will take to learn new software, which may turn out to be not as good. Remember, you can use Sonar almost indefinitely if you're careful. 




I actually am one of those. Tracktion was a great deal for Sonar users at $51 and I got Biotek and the plugs are not
tied to Tracktion.  Got Samplitude deal because I wanted SpectraLayers Pro 4 and I'm actually liking the program.
My third one I'm not sure of is SO1 3.5.  Just not clicking with it. I think it is because I have to forget Sonar way of doing things :)  Which is hard since I started with Pro Audio.  Stopped and started back with Sonar 4.
I think I'll stay in Cakewalk land but I decided to see what else is out there.
Noel and company might be able to make a deal to keep Cakewalk Sonar alive but now I can check out other workflows at my leisure.
2018/01/08 20:51:51
Larry Jones
sharke
 
I'm staying put, they'd have to offer me half a million at least. As such, I'm one of I think 3 people left in the building and it's eerily quiet. I'm the only one left on my floor. Having no neighbors has been great for audio production. 


sharke - Have you seen Harry and Tonto? Good luck, dude.
2018/01/08 21:10:46
sharke
Larry Jones
sharke
 
I'm staying put, they'd have to offer me half a million at least. As such, I'm one of I think 3 people left in the building and it's eerily quiet. I'm the only one left on my floor. Having no neighbors has been great for audio production. 


sharke - Have you seen Harry and Tonto? Good luck, dude.


I have! Think if I traveled anywhere though I'd get home and they would have found some excuse to keep me out of my apartment - citing some non-existent danger or other - their name is Icon Realty and they're notorious for tenant harassment. They recent got fined half a million dollars by the city for harassing people and I have a feeling that's nothing more than a "business expense" for them lol...
2018/01/08 23:05:00
CakeAlexSHere
As has been said elsewhere, the announcement has just officially reached Facebook.
From my perspective that's the nail.
 
https://www.facebook.com/CakewalkInc/
 
2018/01/09 00:30:09
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I'm not sure why you insist on over speculating and extrapolating despite all my posts earlier to explain whats going on, but you are welcome to have your (false) perspective. There is no hidden meaning to the FB page change. The FB was updated today to mirror the website content, since apparently many people don't check our website and were contacting support with other normal questions about sales etc. No agenda from Cakewalk or Gibson besides syncing up to have unified information.
Keep in mind that there is just a small skeleton crew who are managing the services during this transition so we don't have an army of people to keep track of all the social media channels and handle support inquiries as well.
2018/01/09 01:04:59
CakeAlexSHere
^^
Well I wrote this earlier and it got deleted again. Hmmm...
 
I have no reason to doubt you now Noel as it appears you are still being employed by Cakewalk/Gibson, I was under the impression you no longer were. Apologies for me being slow or misunderstanding.
2018/01/09 01:13:16
ampfixer
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I'm not sure why you insist on over speculating and extrapolating despite all my posts earlier to explain whats going on, but you are welcome to have your (false) perspective. There is no hidden meaning to the FB page change. The FB was updated today to mirror the website content, since apparently many people don't check our website and were contacting support with other normal questions about sales etc. No agenda from Cakewalk or Gibson besides syncing up to have unified information.
Keep in mind that there is just a small skeleton crew who are managing the services during this transition so we don't have an army of people to keep track of all the social media channels and handle support inquiries as well.




This is what confuses me so much. The released statements say Cakewalk is dead but I keep reading the highlighted phrase. Just what are you transitioning to?? Transition means a change from one thing to another, right?
2018/01/09 01:24:29
CakeAlexSHere
^^
A "hidden meaning" perhaps? 
Transition: "the process or a period of changing from one state or condition to another."
 
Naa not a hidden meaning...
I think we have a fair idea now what the state/condition is now, what we don't know what the state/condition it will be in the end, and I suspect nor do they know otherwise we would know... there are lots of states/conditions to consider anyway.
 
It's one of those phrases that can mean anything you like (by design). They can't shout "Cakewalk will live" nor do they want to shout "Cakewalk is dead" which imho is fair enough considering...
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