Didn't the LP products replace the ones that had existed in X3?  If so you'd really need to include them at whatever level they originally were included.
 
The Adaptive Limiter should have been sold separately for sure.  Also, were the LP products for sale outside of Sonar?  That might not have been a bad idea.

CakeAlexSHere
Whatever happens I hope we are getting software that does not phone "home" for activation soon. That includes Rapture Pro. Any other plugins periodically phone home for activation purposes please let us know. Looking at the history, I perceive things are probably not going to be handled well rightly or wrongly.

Can anyone confirm which products do that?  I believe it's Sonar, Rapture Pro, and Z3ta2 but I'd like to know for sure.

I guess we're all probably trying to infer hope from Noel's remarks; I certainly am.  There are certainly sparks in them indicating that the business is at least still in existence and not being completely shut down.
His posts sadly use the past tense when referring to the small development team, so they have been laid off I assume, but LinkedIn still shows Noel as being CTO from '1999-Present'. 
Fingers crossed.
 

Magic Russ
Didn't the LP products replace the ones that had existed in X3?  If so you'd really need to include them at whatever level they originally were included.
 
The Adaptive Limiter should have been sold separately for sure.  Also, were the LP products for sale outside of Sonar?  That might not have been a bad idea.

Yup.

Did the old LPs run outside of Sonar?

Another point is they really should get the new plugins to run outside of Sonar to show good faith, as everybody else has done like Overloud etc. Will they? .. probably not. I notice people say it's tied to the hip with Sonar but I assume license code just needs to be altered (?). Somebody said there was a major bug with one of them though (memory fails me).

The new LP plugs run outside SONAR (I think the old did as well?) the new limiter doesn't however.
 
I don't use them (I have many others I prefer) but I tested them. Ironically the first time I tried them in Studio One they crashed it, first and only time Studio One has crashed on me in the 2 1/2 years or so I have been using it. (I tried them again later down the track and all was fine) But the irony of the crash was not lost on me.

Magic Russ
Didn't the LP products replace the ones that had existed in X3?  If so you'd really need to include them at whatever level they originally were included.
 
The Adaptive Limiter should have been sold separately for sure.  Also, were the LP products for sale outside of Sonar?  That might not have been a bad idea.

The LP's could have been sold as an upgrade, that's what a lot of other companies would have done.
 
Selling Adaptive Limiter outside of Sonar would have been a great idea except it seemed to require some specific code in Sonar to work its magic.
 
I'm pretty sure that if Cakewalk had tried to sell these as extras there would have been a lot of fuss made here in part at least because Life Time Updates were positioned as for the Sonar Platinum Package and not the DAW component of Sonar. The question then becomes is the Adaptive Limiter an upgrade to the package or a new addon. Problem is that including it for new users makes it an upgrade to the package. Alternative is that you bundle it to attract new users but maintain it as an addon.
 
Based on the licensing it looks like they kept the options open but the version comparison shows it as part of the package.
 
To be honest I never gave this much thought at the time as I needed an upgrade and Life Time Updates was the same price as a 12 month option so it was an easy choice. I never stopped to think about what I was expecting and its not just Adaptive Limiter, what about the next version of Melodyne, Addictive Drummer, Breverb, etc. depending on the arrangement with the developers these might all of attracted a cost for Cakewalk if made avaialbel to LTU users.
 
One problem for a future owner is that they will inherit the expectations associated with Life Time Updates even though I don't think they will have a legal liability. I think the bigger problem though will be winning back the people who have switched to or are switching to an alternative. Irony being that some of the "locked" third parties have helped make switching easier. 

CakeAlexSHere

Magic Russ
Didn't the LP products replace the ones that had existed in X3?  If so you'd really need to include them at whatever level they originally were included.
 
The Adaptive Limiter should have been sold separately for sure.  Also, were the LP products for sale outside of Sonar?  That might not have been a bad idea.

Yup.

Did the old LPs run outside of Sonar?

Another point is they really should get the new plugins to run outside of Sonar to show good faith, as everybody else has done like Overloud etc. Will they? .. probably not. I notice people say it's tied to the hip with Sonar but I assume license code just needs to be altered (?). Somebody said there was a major bug with one of them though (memory fails me).

The cynic in me thinks that the third parties like Overloud are not unlocking the plugins because without Sonar we don't get a "free" upgrade as part of a future Sonar release which gives them a great selling opportunity in the future. In contrast if there is to be a future owner of the Cakewalk code base they are not going to want any revenue opportunities limited by "good will" and "generosity".  If they suddenly start giving stuff away I think that'll be a good sign that it really is over (assuming you don't accept that it is already over). 

^ Overloud will work outside Sonar now (will unlock) all you need to do is collect new serial numbers:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3701893

anydmusic

The cynic in me thinks that the third parties like Overloud are not unlocking the plugins because without Sonar we don't get a "free" upgrade as part of a future Sonar release which gives them a great selling opportunity in the future.

Overloud did unlock their plug ins for all Cakewalk users with a valid copy of Sonar.

chuckebaby

anydmusic

The cynic in me thinks that the third parties like Overloud are not unlocking the plugins because without Sonar we don't get a "free" upgrade as part of a future Sonar release which gives them a great selling opportunity in the future.

Overloud did unlock their plug ins for all Cakewalk users with a valid copy of Sonar.

Oops really should read things properly, meant to add the words "for altruistic reasons but" to that sentence...