• SONAR
  • Cakewalk Announcement (p.166)
2018/01/09 17:40:15
Jim Kalinowski
My 2 cents on a few things, and I think these are a reasonable 2 cents because 1) I develop software for a living and 2) I went through a similar situation several years ago where the company I worked for was shutdown by the parent company.  Again, these are all my opinion based on past experience.
 
1. The transition stuff going on at Cakewalk will take a LOT longer than most people think.  In my previous experience, it took nearly 6 months to transition the company.
 
2. No one on the Cakewalk transition team is developing any code.  Gibson isn't paying them to do that.  Instead, they are trying to prepare products to be sold.  Maybe even prepare the company (or what's left of it) to be sold.  Since there's only a few people left, for a transition to be successful Cakewalk/Gibson needs to be able to convince a company that the code is worth buying and that the new owner's can get a return on investment.  For software, a new owner will probably want to a couple of product experts to come along with the code.  That was what happened in my past experience (and none of us took the offer from the new company).
 
3. If the day comes when the servers get shutdown, Cakewalk will just email us a master authorization code.  I suspect SONAR has always had the ability to work with a master code.  That approach makes it a lot easier on the developers as they move to new computers for testing.
 
Again, these are just my opinion/guesses.
 
I used the Adaptive Limiter for the first time the other night.  Wow, that thing rocks!  Can't believe we got that for free.  Cake should have been charging for that and some other stuff.
 
As a hobbyist, I'm sticking with SONAR until I can't.  If I was doing this professionally, I'd move on.
2018/01/09 18:20:08
CakeAlexSHere
^^

3) Assuming there is a back door Is just an assumption, and if we assume there is the other assumption is that they will mail us the codes.

Regardless we need clarification on what the plan is here. Keeping us guessing is not good form.
2018/01/09 19:21:03
Skyline_UK
When he pops by here, why does Noel keep using the phrase 'during this transition period'?  Does that mean 'transition to the knacker's yard' or 'transition to a Sonar second life situation'?

2018/01/09 19:22:19
bapu
CakeAlexSHere

Regardless we need clarification on what the plan is here. Keeping us (-1) guessing is not good form.



I'm not guessing at anything so from here on please post your comments as "we (-1)", "us (-1)" and/or "everyone|everybody (-1)" or any variation thereof.
 
I don't wish to be included in your assumptions or speculative hyperbolic assertions.
 

2018/01/09 19:22:58
bapu
Skyline_UK
When he pops by here, why does Noel keep using the phrase 'during this transition period'?  Does that mean 'transition to the knacker's yard' or 'transition to a Sonar second life situation'?



Who knows?
 
Only the Shadow knows.
2018/01/09 19:28:40
CakeAlexSHere
bapu
CakeAlexSHere

Regardless we need clarification on what the plan is here. Keeping us (-1) guessing is not good form.



I'm not guessing at anything so from here on please post your comments as "we (-1)", "us (-1)" and/or "everyone|everybody (-1)" or any variation thereof.
 
I don't wish to be included in your assumptions or speculative hyperbolic assertions.
 



Absolutely right that's a fair comment and one of my pet hates, people walking around like trade union representatives. We shall stop this immediately!!
2018/01/09 21:51:16
aemmett
I simply cannot believe it. I have literally just found this news. I am so very gutted right now that the end has come.
Sonar is the first and only ever DAW that I've owned, been along for the ride since X2 was born, I've loved it ever since it was installed.
 
I am surprised that the store has is closed so early, leaving no opportunity to get hold of things I didn't get around to buying. A little disappointed about that.
 
I am hoping that it will be resurrected in some shape or form in the near future. I've seen the posts about selling it on.
Failing that, is it possible to make the source code/build available to the current member community ?
I bet there are lots of users out there that are software engineers (including me) that could potentially provide support by way of fixes for problems. Something to think about perhaps ??
Please don't leave us all stranded
 
All the best to all the Cake developers over the years.
Andy
 
2018/01/09 21:56:14
chuckebaby
aemmett
I simply cannot believe it. I have literally just found this news. I am so very gutted right now that the end has come.
Sonar is the first and only ever DAW that I've owned, been along for the ride since X2 was born, I've loved it ever since it was installed.
 
I am surprised that the store has is closed so early, leaving no opportunity to get hold of things I didn't get around to buying. A little disappointed about that.
 
I am hoping that it will be resurrected in some shape or form in the near future. I've seen the posts about selling it on.
Failing that, is it possible to make the source code/build available to the current member community ?
I bet there are lots of users out there that are software engineers (including me) that could potentially provide support by way of fixes for problems. Something to think about perhaps ??
Please don't leave us all stranded
 
All the best to all the Cake developers over the years.
Andy
 




A lot of us are disappointed sonar will no longer be developed. It was a great DAW for my needs.
I would like to agree about users (that are software engineers) could provide positive results to bug fixes, enhancements but im afraid that's probably not possible.
 
As noel mentioned earlier, this code is 8 feet thick and probably takes years of knowing your way around to fix one thing. that's the trouble really. you make one change and the domino effect takes place.
IE: 1 fix = 2 more bugs that surface.
2018/01/09 22:05:40
aemmett
Sounds like problematic architecture. I know that is simplistic, but better to have a go than to just let it die.
Bring it on I say, a learning opportunity if nothing else
2018/01/10 00:50:03
bapu
When I said stupid things as a young man my Dad would say "You're talking like a man with paper a**hole."
 
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