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2017/11/29 19:14:18
Ademir
Words from Willy Jones in another post:
"Additionally everyone that was on a monthly plan and has not yet reached 12 payments has been taken care of so that they can continue using SONAR."
 
2017/11/29 19:22:42
Karyn
The posts by Don Williams got zapped by Akismet....  I've restored them.
 
I'm also copying his main post over to the software forum for inclusion with the other generous 3rd party offers.
Please continue discussion in that thread so it doesn't get lost here.
 
 
Don,  please PM me that link so I can edit it into your post.
 
2017/11/29 20:16:22
craigb
Definitely one outcome from this SNAFU is that it's far easier to tell the good guys from the bad! 
2017/11/29 21:10:41
The Flaming Pike
Hi there, regular Steam user here. I've learned of the news early on a few days ago but I finally had the time to read the comments here where the core Sonar users are. I wanted to comment.

I was lucky in a way since I was about to upgrade to the "real" Sonar, having bought Home Studio a year ago and finding its limitations. I was going to spend a lot of money on Cakewalk products.

I think enough people have been expressing their frustrations and I'd like to talk about something else: the future of Cakewalk and Sonar.

I'll be honest here, I don't think another enterprise would be interested in the Cakewalk/Sonar brand. The reason is that it has been going from one owner to another over the years and this low blow given by Gibson, whether you like it or not, diminishes the overall reliability of Cakewalk. To make it simple, all this made Cakewalk look weak. The Cakewalk name couldn't go on because the trauma left by Gibson's mismanagement is too important.

I highly doubt Microsoft would have interests in Cakewalk/Sonar. Expensive software that cost $200 and over will attract only a limited amount of people - people who are doing this as a living or as a very passionate hobby. MS wants to reach a broader audience. Their apps must be appealing to as much people as possible and they must be simple to use. Sonar is too advanced and complex for that. MS isn't the kind of enterprise that strikes me as innovative and daring either. I don't think they'd want to step in that relatively saturated market.

The future of software development lies in crowdfunding. I highly encourage the people at Cakewalk to regroup and come up with a new brand name and make a new yet similar software that they could put on crowdfunding websites such as Kickstarter. The loyalty of Cakewalk users would probably reflect on the crowdfunding effort and the team would have complete independence from big companies like Gibson.

In my opinion, it is not viable to give unlimited support for a software like Sonar. It's not a free-to-play MMORPG with DLC and microtransactions. A DAW is not addicting like a MMORPG either and less people will be interested in buying a software like Sonar. Continuous online support on any software that isn't a video game is a very risky thing to do, in my humble opinion. That lifetime pass was too good to be true and did not fit with reality. Not enough customers, not enough monthly revenue = not enough fuel. When Gibson saw that the fuel was starting to come less and less, they pulled the plug.

One option, however, would be to crowdfund your software on a yearly basis once it's been made so the updates can keep going. Wikipedia asks for money every year and they keep going. Patreon is a solid long-term crowdfunding platform once your software is made since it's all about continued support. For those who are unfamiliar with both websites: Kickstarter is a one-time thing to start of with a huge amount of money while Patreon uses a monthly donation dynamic.
2017/11/29 23:15:12
jpetersen
If Microsoft comes up with another "Creator's Update" that breaks Sonar, my installs are toast.
I now regret moving from Win7 to Win10.
2017/11/29 23:18:17
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Turn off updates
2017/11/29 23:24:29
jpetersen
You can't, unless you buy Win Pro (Enterprise). The upgrade and home versions have no switch.
The registry trick also only works until Windows starts nagging, saying Windows is unauthorized.
 
2017/11/29 23:32:49
.
Of course you can, I've been doing for ages on both Pro and Home versions
 
Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services then scroll down to Windows Update and disable it.
 
Don't worry what anybody else says, it's permanent (unless you decide to change it) it works perfectly, all my PC's and Laptops (a mixture of Pro and Home) are all done like that, and they all remain on the same version and build number as when I done it ages ago. If at sometime you do want to update, you just enable it again.
2017/11/29 23:42:04
CedricM
All the best to Cakewalk employees, may you find a great new job!
2017/11/29 23:56:44
gcurrie
donwilliams
Right now, we are having an Epic sale through December 1st of Overture 5 for $75. This low price is in no way a reflection of problems here and Sonic Scores is not in financial trouble and I have always believed in affordable prices for good software. In fact, next year will be my best year in twenty-five years. If any of you Sonar users would like to purchase Overture 5, I will make an offer to you for $50. This is not a subscription price and is the full version.
 
If you have not looked at Overture 5, it is a DAW like/Notation hybrid. Within the next year we plan to add audio tracks. We release a new update everyone to three months and always include new features that were requested by the users. As for your Sonar files there is not much I can do until the audio tracks are implemented but you can export your scores as a MusicXML and import them into Overture if they contain MIDI tracks.
 
I apologize for the long-winded post but really wanted to you to know it hurts to see such a good company killed by gross mismanagement and that it is no way a reflection of Cakewalks’ personnel.
 
Overture 5 coupon code to reduce price to $50.
 
sonar50
 
Thanks for listening,
Don Williams
President,
Sonic Scores


Craig Anderton reposted this to bring attention to it. I want to say that this is one incredible deal that anyone needing USABLE notation should consider. (I just placed my order) Don't let this slip away because you're busy!
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