Very sad indeed, I've been with Cakewalk since it was a DOS Midi program.  I decided to plunge into Studio One, while they have that cross grade offer for $149, However I am 6 months into my Sonar Professional Subscription, and am wondering if that will continue to be charged for the remainder, or if payment stops now. If I would cancel the subscription, would I get to keep the Professional version up to this point? I don't relish the idea of paying another $120 dollars with no further updates.
Does anyone know for sure?

Marc2109
Very sad indeed, I've been with Cakewalk since it was a DOS Midi program. I decided to plunge into Studio One, while they have that cross grade offer for $149, However I am 6 months into my Sonar Professional Subscription, and am wondering if that will continue to be charged for the remainder, or if payment stops now. If I would cancel the subscription, would I get to keep the Professional version up to this point? I don't relish the idea of paying another $120 dollars with no further updates.
Does anyone know for sure?

 
The FAQ states that Cakewalk is working with Digital River and Cleverbridge to turn off those payments. If you see a payment has been made since the announcement (I'm assuming that would be 2017-11-17) to contact support.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/S...ewalk-Announcement-FAQ
 
They are preparing or are prepared to provide a way to activate your existing license offline. You will be locked to what ever the latest version of Cakewalk you paid for is. In your case that sounds like the final release of Sonar Pro.
I should add a tag line to my signature with my audio workstation setup.... but at this point...
 

I am absolutely livid about subscribing to lifetime updates for a lousy 3 or 4 months.  These guys should not be allowed to get away with this bull-crap.  I certainly would jump into any class action suit in a heartbeat.  I do not like to be taken advantage of in this way in any business.  Gibson has lost all credibility with me.  I will henceforth advise my students and anyone else to shop elsewhere.  I'm sorry people, but we didn't even get a civil apology for screwing us over.  Anyone can tell you that I supported this company and steered many a user in the direction of both Cakewalk and Gibson over the years.  Shame on you and the way you handled this. 

nonametoday

mudgel

nonametoday

facelessproduction
Your early and fast adoption of 64bit technology on the market had my first attention and interest of the products Cakewalk made over 10 years back. It were Cakewalk that had the lead roll of 64bit technology, 64bit DAW and 64bit audio-engine that made eventually others, software manufactures follow in same direction and adapting to 64bit technology too example Steinberg, Studio One, Logic Pro, Reaper, AVID Pro Tools, Waves, Native Instruments etc.

When did Cakewalk start with a 64bit audio engine ?

Reaper has had a 64bit audio engine since it started, back in 2005.

Sonar 5 came out about 2005 with the first 64 bit DAW.
Reapers wasn’t available as 64 bit until about 2009 according to Wikipedia

The only reference from wikipedia about 64bit is about osx and windows 64 bit os being supported.
A post from a thread from gearslutz in 2007 which is an interview with Justin Frankel refers to the audio engine.
 
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/1221556-post2.html

In that interview Justin says this about REAPER:
 
"We chose at the start to use 64 bit throughout, planning on newer faster machines with more memory and memory bandwidth, and so that we wouldn't have to deal with upgrading everything if it became important later."
 
And at the bottom of this page of older REAPER installers, the first version is "REAPER v0.41 - December 26 2005".
 
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=0x
 
Funny side note: I once installed EVERY VERSION of REAPER, starting with that oldest one, just to see what would happen. To my surprise, every one of them worked with no issues, other than warning me when my projects used functionality that was not yet implemented. The projects would load and play, but might be missing plugins that didn't exist yet, or folder hierarchy that wasn't yet implemented, but they still played, and not once did anything fail due to different pieces of the program being scattered all over my hard drive. When I finally installed the last current version, it was like I had never spent the entire day trying all the old versions and everything worked exactly the way it did before.  :-)
 

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo
 
In that interview Justin says this about REAPER:
 
"We chose at the start to use 64 bit throughout, planning on newer faster machines with more memory and memory bandwidth, and so that we wouldn't have to deal with upgrading everything if it became important later."
 
And at the bottom of this page of older REAPER installers, the first version is "REAPER v0.41 - December 26 2005".
 
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=0x

 
That first public release of Reaper (v0.40) is 32-bit. According to the Reaper download pages, the first beta version of Reaper in 64-bit was v2.43 on July 30, 2008. The previous version, v2.42, is 32-bit. 
 

Ruben

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo
 
In that interview Justin says this about REAPER:
 
"We chose at the start to use 64 bit throughout, planning on newer faster machines with more memory and memory bandwidth, and so that we wouldn't have to deal with upgrading everything if it became important later."
 
And at the bottom of this page of older REAPER installers, the first version is "REAPER v0.41 - December 26 2005".
 
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=0x

 
That first public release of Reaper (v0.40) is 32-bit. According to the Reaper download pages, the first beta version of Reaper in 64-bit was v2.43 on July 30, 2008. The previous version, v2.42, is 32-bit. 
 

There is a difference between 64-bit audio engine and 64-bit executable code. The Cakewalk Sonar 5 disk dated 09/26/2005 offers no 64 bit install, and I have it installed on my same machine as REAPER. Believe me when I say that I *would* have installed the 64 bit version of Sonar 5 onto my Windows 7 64-bit machine, if there had been a 64-bit version of Sonar 5 on my disk, but I even just double checked it, and there isn't.
 
Edit: after letting the installer go further, there is a choice to install 64-bit.
 

 

dupilcate
 

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo

Ruben

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo
 
In that interview Justin says this about REAPER:
 
"We chose at the start to use 64 bit throughout, planning on newer faster machines with more memory and memory bandwidth, and so that we wouldn't have to deal with upgrading everything if it became important later."
 
And at the bottom of this page of older REAPER installers, the first version is "REAPER v0.41 - December 26 2005".
 
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=0x

 
That first public release of Reaper (v0.40) is 32-bit. According to the Reaper download pages, the first beta version of Reaper in 64-bit was v2.43 on July 30, 2008. The previous version, v2.42, is 32-bit.
 





There is a difference between 64-bit audio engine and 64-bit executable code.

 
Yes I know but in the interview quoted above Reaper's author states that "We chose at the start to use 64 bit throughout...". But Reaper wasn't 64-bit throughout until v2.43 on July 30, 2008.
 
 

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo
The Cakewalk Sonar 5 disk dated 09/26/2005 offers no 64 bit install, and I have it installed on my same machine as REAPER.

 
The disc of Sonar 5 that I have, released Oct 7, 2005, includes a 64-bit version.
 

Ruben

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo
The Cakewalk Sonar 5 disk dated 09/26/2005 offers no 64 bit install, and I have it installed on my same machine as REAPER.

The disc of Sonar 5 that I have, released Oct 7, 2005, includes a 64-bit version.
 

 
I tried running mine farther down the install and it does also offer 64 bit, which I must have installed, because I rebuilt my DAW machine from scratch and went 64-bit at the first of the year.  So Cake wins the who's first at 64-bit round, but loses at the who's DAW can you still buy today.
 
Not that either really matters at this point. Cake was a leader when the folks running it were more like the folks running Cockos, and less like giant corporations like Tascam/Roland/Gibson.