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  • OT: Behringer ADA8000- to buy or not to buy!!! (p.3)
2007/01/06 18:43:38
sscannon
I own 2 of them, and they sound fine. Not one of my clients has complained. I will buy yours for $100 right now, jschild. Great for 001, 002R and the like. And I don't use the preamps, so no comment there, but the conversion is better than an ADAT, if that tells you anything.
2007/01/06 19:33:31
Duojet

ORIGINAL: GC San Diego Seth

Just to add on a bit, and to reply to a question in an earlier post here about what Behringer has "copied"

ADA8000 - Presonus Digimax

VAmp - Line 6 Pod

Truth Monitors - Mackie HR824

Xenyx mixers - Mackie Onyx

And this is just a small example. Each of the Behringer products is a direct rip-off of their counterparts. I don't care about where Behringer is from, or the history of mine or their respective country. When you put money into Behringer's pockets, you take money away form companies who lead and innovate in this pro-audio industry we love so much.



i think behringer is taking very little business away from mackie. i think there are few people who are having a tough decision between Hr824 and truth monitors.

the real benefit of a company like behringer is they offer a very low price, albeit somewhat less quality version of the things they "rip off" , but it puts those products within the reach of those that cant otherwise afford them.

there are companies like this in every industry. competition is good. in many cases this forces the companies who are being "ripped off" to create a "value" line of their own products.
2007/01/06 20:50:13
Tape Head
Yeah I hate Behringer too... But if they copied a 1073 perfectly*sound wise* and sold it for 599.99.. you can bet I'd buy one.
I do have a ADA8000 and man, does it come in handy sometimes.
I use it for triggers with Drumagog and every once in a while, throw a Scratch vocal or weird room mic through it.
It's more than worth the money, if you find yourself in the position of needing just a few more tracks.
As a main source of conversion? Heavens NO!

Can you believe Behringer is making Acoustic Pianos. And check this out.......

The Chinese government is going to name the city, Behringer resides in, BEHRINGER!!! Because they employ such a large percentage of the Chinese workforce and shell out bucks to China's government. Can you believe it??
No lie. They will have their own Behringer Gas & Electric, water company, housing and transit..
F*CK'N Everything....




What is this world coming too..........?
2007/01/06 21:00:17
ohhey

ORIGINAL: Duojet


ORIGINAL: GC San Diego Seth

Just to add on a bit, and to reply to a question in an earlier post here about what Behringer has "copied"

ADA8000 - Presonus Digimax

VAmp - Line 6 Pod

Truth Monitors - Mackie HR824

Xenyx mixers - Mackie Onyx

And this is just a small example. Each of the Behringer products is a direct rip-off of their counterparts. I don't care about where Behringer is from, or the history of mine or their respective country. When you put money into Behringer's pockets, you take money away form companies who lead and innovate in this pro-audio industry we love so much.



i think behringer is taking very little business away from mackie. i think there are few people who are having a tough decision between Hr824 and truth monitors.

the real benefit of a company like behringer is they offer a very low price, albeit somewhat less quality version of the things they "rip off" , but it puts those products within the reach of those that cant otherwise afford them.

there are companies like this in every industry. competition is good. in many cases this forces the companies who are being "ripped off" to create a "value" line of their own products.


Mackie also let their own products go to hell,.. they can't blame anyone else for that. Behringer makes a lot more stuff then just Mackie mixer copies stuff that Mackie won't make. If Mackie stuff were still made in USA and still good quality I would support them but they let us all down. It's not even the same leadership team anymore it's just a bunch of bean counters now and the engineers have no say.
2007/01/06 21:05:08
sscannon

ORIGINAL: jcschild


i got a used one i will gladly dump for $100




I'll take it. email me at sscannon at aol.com, and I'll paypal ya! Cheers!
2007/01/06 21:08:01
LionSound
I'm not trying to say Mackie is this or that. The point I am trying to make is that Behringer does not innovate. Their products are not unique, or are of particularly high quality. Shure, not everyone can afford high end monitors or preamps, but that doesn't make Behringer's products "good" IMO. To me, its not about the price, but rather what a product is worth, and its overall value to you. If eight mic preamps for $200 represent a good value to you, I say go for it. Just keep in mind that you won't get anything for that price other than a piece of gear that cost's roughly $25 per preamp.

BTW I am a self-admitted gear snob.

Peace
2007/01/07 01:31:53
Lay In Wait
The point I am trying to make is that Behringer does not innovate.


Well then please, tell me who does.
2007/01/07 02:33:17
sscannon

ORIGINAL: sscannon


ORIGINAL: jcschild


i got a used one i will gladly dump for $100






I'll take it. email me at sscannon at aol.com, and I'll paypal ya! Cheers!


SOLD! Thanks, Scott.
2007/01/07 05:05:02
Mooch4056

ORIGINAL: agincourtdb

I have a number of Behringer pieces including the ADA800 and have never had any problem. I have had major problems, however, with Presonus, and will never buy from them again. So go figure.

Reverse engineering is a common and perfectly legal business practice and doesn't bother me in the least. Maybe if Mackie didn't 'name-brand' mark up their gear to such a ridiculous extent, or offered gear in the Behringer price range (even Tapco stuff is more expensive feature for feature, and they don't offer large Tapco mixers, for example) they wouldn't lose so much business to the 'knock-off' companies.



hmm it's in my price range at the moment anyway .....what kind of drivers does it use? usb or firewire? asio or wdm?

ebay as a ton of these units for a fair price....mayeb i'll pick up 2 of them......
2007/01/07 10:46:17
dontletmedrown
ORIGINAL: Lay In Wait

The point I am trying to make is that Behringer does not innovate.


Well then please, tell me who does.


Umm, pretty much every reputable manufaturer:

Line6 - First to come up with an alternative to guitar micing
Presonus - Interfaces that improve AD/DA with every new revision: Firepod, Firestudio, Digimax; Original tools like the Central Station and Faderport
Universal Audio - Creating combo versions of its cherished preamps and compressors (like the 2x LA2A)
Mackie - Onyx and Satellite
Digidesign - Yes, I know everyone here hates them, but their digi 002 had hardly any competition until the last year or 2
Apogee - High end converters and innovative products like the miniDAC, MiniME, and Rosetta line.

just to name a few...

Sorry, not trying to be a prick here, but you'll need to try harder than that. My issue is not so much that Behringer doesn't innovate, but that IT STEALS INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL DESIGNS FROM OTHER MANUFACTURERS. I find it strange that people who call themselves artists are okay with this. What if someone stole something you created and made a KILLING from it.

I think Americans have been taught to be so dollar-conscious that we want to pay ABSOLUTELY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE for EVERYTHING we buy. Corporate America gets around this by hiring children in Honk Kong and Indonesia to do all of their labor so they can keep their six-figure paycheck. Why on Earth would ANYONE want to support that? Personally, I have no issue spending a little more to support my country and its workers. Sometimes MONEY is NOT always the most important thing.
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