Sims and modelers are cool for getting a general sound which is good.

But for my tastes I have to have a real amp.

My guitar just FEELS flat and dead plugged into the computer.


For me it's about what inspires my playing.

Actually I would rather have one great sound than 400 so so sounds.

YMMV




ps. try some Snake Oil strings

ORIGINAL: stratcat

Go here and listen to their samples. Listen through a good system and turn it up.

http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=guitarcombos_us

Those are great.

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Sims and modelers are cool for getting a general sound which is good.

But for my tastes I have to have a real amp.

My guitar just FEELS flat and dead plugged into the computer.


For me it's about what inspires my playing.

Actually I would rather have one great sound than 400 so so sounds.

As much as I like and appreciate the modellers, I cannot monitor through the computer because of latency. Even at 1.9ms it becomes noticeable at high bpm. I also think there is a substantial difference between decent studio monitors and live gear in terms of how they project the sound. Studio monitors are nearfield focused, while live gear is focused on dispersion. A POD through a pair of Mackie SRM450s is a real eye opener. So, even if I record direct with a V-AMP, I monitor through a small PA system.

you can notice 1.9ms latency...you must have bionic ears. I dont think its humanly possible or your computer isnt registering the correct latency..
CJ

you can notice 1.9ms latency

Usually it happens when either playing fast or playing percussive rhythms on the guitar (in our case), and even more when playing an electric drumset (it gets anoying sometimes--you drummers know what I'm talking about). 1.9 ms is noticeble when you add the other ~1.5 ms which brings it to a total of ~4 ms if not more.

I cant notice 1.9ms...I guess i dont play that fast.....

I cant notice 1.9ms...I guess i dont play that fast.....

I didn't mean for it to come out that way, just talking from my experience. I probably can't shred like I used to anymore since I haven't been practicing at all lately, but there's still something there :-P Have a good one .

I didnt take it that way, Im so used to being corrected in this room. I am the master of mis-information. also, Being corrected is one of the ways i learn all this PC mobo gombo stuff.

CJ

Being corrected is one of the ways i learn all this PC mobo gombo stuff.

Me too .

I do notice the latency, if not I would have gone down the Guitar Rig route a long time ago for recording purposes. The other problem with latency is that to work at 1.9ms puts a lot of stress on the CPU, and Guitar Rig proportedly puts a good deal of stress, plus reverbs and other effects on other tracks, and we're asking for trouble.

The computer is not the only source of latency. I bet my V-AMP has a minute latency, then there's the whole signal path and multiple conversions that have to take place before my speakers can get the sound to me at the speed of sound (another latency factor).

There is a point here though, if someone is just strumming out rythm parts at 100bpm I doubt latency will be a factor, but shredding out 16th note triplets at tempos around 160bpm and there is no chance of keeping in time. I may be part of a dying breed, but I love shredding through arpeggios and creating intricate tapping runs at extreme velocities.

I never thought about this from a drummers perspective. It must drive them nuts too, especially with V-Drums.

Anyway, this is a great topic and let's keep it going and keep adding to it.