SONAR Drum map (Piano roll) Left hand panel view keeps resizing

HI all,

Not a major thing but annoying me as I keep having to adjust it. In my SONAR Drum map I have names all the slots on the left hand side of the view. All the samples are listed which is great. However I have to manually drag the bar over slightly to the right to see the full names I have listed. The problem is, when I finish my editing and close the Drum map for other work it seems to reset itself. As when I go back in to it the separation bar has moved back to its original position.

I know this is not major but its annoying having to readjust it each time I go back in as I spend allot of time there. I know I could leave it open and TAB it but I won't to keep things simple and keep the screens to a minimum. I haven't had this problem with any of the PIANO ROLL views. They seem to remember where I have set the separation bar but the Drum Map does not.

Any thoughts on this?

ORIGINAL: moffdnb

HI all,

Not a major thing but annoying me as I keep having to adjust it. In my SONAR Drum map I have names all the slots on the left hand side of the view. All the samples are listed which is great. However I have to manually drag the bar over slightly to the right to see the full names I have listed. The problem is, when I finish my editing and close the Drum map for other work it seems to reset itself. As when I go back in to it the separation bar has moved back to its original position.

I know this is not major but its annoying having to readjust it each time I go back in as I spend allot of time there. I know I could leave it open and TAB it but I won't to keep things simple and keep the screens to a minimum. I haven't had this problem with any of the PIANO ROLL views. They seem to remember where I have set the separation bar but the Drum Map does not.

Any thoughts on this?

Only to say, yes, I suffer the same thing! Darn nuisance and needs fixing in a future release.

Me and many others on the forum have mentioned this. I finally submitted a bug fix to Cake.

See this:

>Problem description or question:
>In a midi track for drums when you go to track view and are using a drum map you must adjust the vertical divder line to show all of the drum instrument names on the left. If you close that view out and then come back to it the settings are not retained. You must go through the entire process again to adjust the width of the drum map instrument names.
>

>>Hello Dale,

You shouldn't have to adjust the middle line to see the drum map
presets. The list should pop out towards the right if it needs to. Go
to your Display properties in the control panel and try adjusting your
screen resolution one notch above where it is right now.

Open a New project in Cakewalk and make the changes that you want for
default settings. Then go to File | Save as and change the Type to
Template. Now overwrite the Normal.tpl file in the Cakewalk Program
folder. Cakewalk should open this way each time you launch it.

>>Hello Dale,

I'd like you to take a screen shot of what you are seeing. Press
Alt+Print Screen on your keyboard, then open MS Paint. Go to Edit
Paste and save the file as a JPEG. Please send us your file

>>Hello Dale,

Thanks for the screen shots. I was misunderstanding you. And
unfortunately, there is no .INI tweak that will set a default width
for that pane. I will send your feature request to the proper
department.

ORIGINAL: moffdnb

HI all,

Not a major thing but annoying me as I keep having to adjust it. In my SONAR Drum map I have names all the slots on the left hand side of the view. All the samples are listed which is great. However I have to manually drag the bar over slightly to the right to see the full names I have listed. The problem is, when I finish my editing and close the Drum map for other work it seems to reset itself. As when I go back in to it the separation bar has moved back to its original position.

I know this is not major but its annoying having to readjust it each time I go back in as I spend allot of time there. I know I could leave it open and TAB it but I won't to keep things simple and keep the screens to a minimum. I haven't had this problem with any of the PIANO ROLL views. They seem to remember where I have set the separation bar but the Drum Map does not.

Any thoughts on this?

I suffered through the issue in all previous versions of SPE thinking Cake would fix it in the next release. Finally after seeing it recur in 6.2 I submitted the bug fix request.

ORIGINAL: Skyline_UK

Thanks for submitting the issue, Dale.
As a matter of interest, did you do that recently, i.e. before 6.1 and 6.2?

John

this "feature" came with sonar 5 and the new piano roll ...

ORIGINAL: LionSound

Submit it to Cakewalk as a bug report ... it is quite annoying.

It's not a bug. It's a learntolivewithit.

ORIGINAL: wilko

this "feature" came with sonar 5 and the new piano roll ...

And it survived through Sonar 7, which was the big "MIDI update."

It took me until the reference to Sonar 6.1 to realize I was reading a thread that started a year and a half ago... which says something about more than my inattentiveness.

These things simply do not get revisted by Cakewalk, they only get revisted by Cakewalk's customers.....

this should have been fixed in version 7 but it wasn't.....it is a pain in the ass

I just discovered another problem with the drum map view... at least I think so... maybe someone can confirm this.....

If I'm playing through a drum map, I can click on one of the named kit pieces in the left pane, and that will select all the events in that row -- just like when you click on a piano key in the regular PRV and select all the notes. But under a drum map, you can't press Del to delete those events, you can only "cut" them using Ctrl-x. You can also lasso them all with the mouse, but that's not always convenient.

It's hard to be certain, but I think that using the mouse to scroll and zoom is also a little different under a drum map than in regular PRV. It seems to be more difficult to get it to do those things... the focus somehow gets lost, and can't be regained without exiting and reentering that view... or something like that.

Oh... I'm also finding that when I'm using a drum map, and I'm in Track View, and I've got inline PRV mode turned OFF so that I'm seeing regular clips, and I use the Fit to Content command, the content will adjust, but if I then turn IPRV ON, the content is completely not visible. If I then use Fit to Content in IPRV, and then switch back to regular clip mode with IPRV OFF, the clips no longer show any content and have to be re-fitted again. Can anyone confirm that?

Also... I find that sometimes, when using a drum map, the clips in track view show the events as right-pointing arrow heads, but sometimes they show them as full rectangles. Is there something I'm missing here? I have been unable to control this or determine what causes it to be one way sometimes and another way other times.

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, soloing works different when using a drum map. If you solo just the MIDI track, or just the synth output track, its "mate" doesn't also get soloed and so you don't hear anything; you have to manually solo both, unlike with a regular MIDI track where soloing either solos both. At least that's how it's working when they are all in a folder; if they're in a folder, and you *solo the folder*, then drum mapped tracks behave the way non-DM tracks do when individually soloed. (I can't conveniently check what happens when the tracks are not in a folder.) I suppose there must be some reason for this related to the the pathing through the map, but it's counter intuitive. It might be working correctly, but it's not working as expected.

The different variations of PRV, including the inline PRV and Drum Maps, are really not too well coordinated. They're all very similar to each other, especially visually, but they're just different enough to require the kind of attention that is better spent making music than of second guessing mouse clicks.



It's the little things....................

Hi HCMG-

It's the little things....................

And I do hope you're reporting all of these to Cakewalk as well! You've made some excellent observations and FRs, but there's a good chance they'll slip under the radar if you only post them here. I know you know the routine, but for those who might not:

Feature Requests

Bug Reports

-Susan

Bump. Because, it's 2015 and this is still a problem.