metronome mid-measure

Hi,
would be in mid-measure. The metronome feature (as far as I can tell) will only allow you to generate a time signature at the beginning of a measure.
 
How do I generate a new time signature on beat number-2?
 
thanks

Thanks for the reply Beepster,
 
I'll be more clear: I'd like the metronome to follow the odd time measures.
 
The song begins in 4/4, and I set the metronome to 4/4....no problem. Then, the song shifts to 6/8, so at that point, I shifted to 6/8, again....no problem.
 
After 3 measures of 6/8, I want the song to go back to 4/4. Now we have a problem. Why? because, the 6/8 bars end in the middle of the standard time signature and my only option is at the beginning of a bar.
 
If you have time try this: set up a few bars of 4/4  on your metronome, then 3 bars of 6/8 and then go back to  4/4.
 
Let me know if you are successful  thanks
 

kawika
Thanks for the reply Beepster,
 
I'll be more clear: I'd like the metronome to follow the odd time measures.
 
The song begins in 4/4, and I set the metronome to 4/4....no problem. Then, the song shifts to 6/8, so at that point, I shifted to 6/8, again....no problem.
 
After 3 measures of 6/8, I want the song to go back to 4/4. Now we have a problem. Why? because, the 6/8 bars end in the middle of the standard time signature and my only option is at the beginning of a bar.
 
If you have time try this: set up a few bars of 4/4  on your metronome, then 3 bars of 6/8 and then go back to  4/4.
 
Let me know if you are successful  thanks
 

Hi... I actually can't mess with this right now because I've got a project open I need to get finsihed up but as I said earlier you are going to need to figure out the math involved in splitting a 6/8 measure in half, then switch to 4/4.
 
So you need two time sig changes prgrammed in. The first to switch from 6/8 to whatever would split a 6/8 measure in half (I think it would be 3/8) THEN program in your 4/4 time sig.
 
I actually really suck at time sigs BUT I think 3/8 would do the job of creating the half measure of a 6/8 measure. The other (formally educated) doods could help more.
 
Also depending on the change back to 4/4 you may actually want to have a single 2/4 measure AFTER the 3/8 (or whatever it is) change in case the first measure of your new "4/4" is actually only a half measure. This would (might) avoid the rest of the 4/4 sequence having the first beat of each measure actually appear in the MIDDLE of each measure.
 
As I said... I suck a time sigs... but that because I suck at basic math (but can solve more complex equation type problems which is weird).
 
Just check that out and see if you can get it to work. It should if you can get that "half of 6/8" programmed in.
 
Cheers.

Thanks Beepster.   Brundelfly, your reply describes my problem, exactly. So.....what do I do? Any thoughts?

Not knowing what the music actually sounds like, the question is how many total beats do you want to go by before you're you get back to the first full bar of 4/4? If I understand correctly that the first beat after the 3 measures of 6:8 isn't a downbeat, and you don't want an emphasized metronome click at that point, then probably you should make the last measure of 6:8 be 10:8, and just put up with the extra clicks.

Yea Brundlefly....now I know: it is a matter of "putting up with it." I can work around it. I wasn't sure I needed to but...Oh well
 
thanks! 

No....I need 3 measures of 6/8.
 
The "half measure" shouldn't be there. That's where I want to go back to 4/4.
 
I disagree with your statement: "The math of Time Sigs makes it impossible".
 
"One" can and does change,  with songs that have multiple time sig changes. Sonar's metronome is not yet sophisticated enough to allow for this very musical phenomenon. There is probably a lot of programming involved ( IDK)....but perhaps in the future they can set it up so that you can plug in a new new time sig at your "Now Time".....For example, It would look like this 8:3.
 

If it's about where the emphasized clicks are, you might just want to record the click, and then cut and paste together what you want to hear as a click track.

If you are only changing metronome settings, and playing to that while the Sonar project itself is still in some other time signature, then that would explain the half-measure that shouldn't be thing, if I understand things correctly. (I have never tried that, so if you cannot even do that I apologize).
 
I write in multiple time signatures all the time in Sonar, and I do an insert Meter change at the beginning of whatever measure I want the altered meter, keep it that way until finished with that time signature, then simply insert a new Meter change at the beginning of the measure where I want the new time signature to be.  I don't ever have any measures end up as partially used - half measures - because each measure is exactly as long as I need it to be.
 
The insert Meter change appears under: Project>Insert Meter/Key Change, and you can tell it which measure you want the meter change to be in.  Sonar will then stay in the new meter until either the project ends, OR another meter change is inserted.
 
Does that help?  Or, should I go have some more coffee and start again? :)
 
Bob Bone