midi instrument never load in the correct tracks? just me?

Look at the drop-down menu for the midi track output. Does it show any inconsistencies from one session to the next? Do any of the keyboards or other hardware devices appear in the list?
 

thanks for the reply,
lets say I load synth lounge lizard: I have track 14 and 15 for it. track 15 is set up in my console view as input is Yamaha keyboard midi channel 1 and the output is lounge lizard. track 14 input is lounge lizard and output is to my bus. track 16 is my foot controller for lizard. input is foot controller midi channel 1 and the output is lounge lizard(to control knobs in the lizard). I save everything and go to bed.
 
I get up the next day, open my song, and track 15 is now my microkorg midi Omni. track 16, which should be my foot controller is now my akai mpd32 midi channel 1.
 
I have made project templates with all these type channels and synths already set up to save time, they just never save in the correct order when I open them up in the future.
 
hope I clarified my question.
 

Bob,
 Thanks for the suggestion. My midisport 8x8 is always plugged into the same usb port into my desktop.
when I go into edit>pref>midi devices all of my keyboards are always in the same ports. ( Yamaha keys = port 1, Korg = port 2, etc.....   those never change )

Thanks, scook - I was going to dig around for that post. :)
 
Bob Bone
 

Hey,
 Thanks for that link scook, that had a lot of good stuff in it. I have done some test and noticed if I start computer first then all my music stuff after I get some mixed up stuff. If I First boot music stuff, then computer, It loads as intended (so far).
Mr Bone
  I do have 3 items that are usb devices: Novation remote, Mixer and midisport 8x8. All other items are straight midi.
I did have sleep on but, not to activate till 1 hr of inactivity. I see what you mean though, so I have changed that to never sleep.
 
I'm going to keep messing with it and see if I can nail it down.
 
P.s. bob, sorry for being so sour yesterday, I have the flu, and missed Christmas with my family because of it and was really angry. please forgive me.
 
thanks all for the help.
Mike

Mike - I don't recall anything you typed sounding angry with me - if it was, I missed it.  No worries :)
 
Sorry you had a rough day yesterday.
 
Bob Bone
 

robert_e_bone
I wonder if the USB-connected devices are being recognized in differing orders when they are either turned on after the computer boots...

 
That's why I suggested looking at the midi tracks' output drop-down menu. The items there are numbered in sequence with hardware followed by softsynths.

Hi Bob. Do you disconnect the the MIDI port at anytime? Is that the UM-3G? I have two of them hooked together for 6 ins and outs. Once I set up I have not had a problem ever with a change of assignments. This is true of all programs i use that access MIDI. 
 
 

gustabo
I used to have the same problem, what I did to fix it, once I had all the ports and devices show up correctly in Sonar, I shut Sonar down and set aud.ini and ttsseq.ini to a read-only attribute.
If I ever add new devices, I remove the read-only attribute from both files, open Sonar, set it the way I want it, close Sonar and set both files to read-only again.
Hope this helps...

That's pretty clever...!

I might try that read only trick.
 
To respond to John, I have a permanent set up in my studio. Things are connected and never get disconnected until the next change in my set up. MIDI port assignments do not retain themselves once the program is exited. I am using the Cakewalk UM-3G.
 
Port 1 in and out Roland XP-60 never disconnect it
Port 2 in and out  Roland Sound Canvas A side
Port 3 out only to Roland Sound Canvas B side