monitoring during recording

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2008/09/09 12:45:54 (permalink)

monitoring during recording

How can I monitor what I'm recording (using a mic) as well as the tracks already recorded while I'm recording a vocal? I can hear the other tracks, but not my voice. I use the Alesis IO/2 for my interface.
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    Phrauge
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 12:50:47 (permalink)
    Use Input Monitoring.

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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:01:59 (permalink)
    With Input echo enabled, you need to set your latency lower than 5ms or youll here an annoying delay.
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:11:12 (permalink)
    How do you prevent recording what comes into the headphones? Is my mike too sensitive? During breaks or breaths I hear the background music in the vocal playback? How do I keep the background loud enough to get into and not have it recorded as leaks from the headphones?

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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:20:30 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mauryw

    How do you prevent recording what comes into the headphones? Is my mike too sensitive?


    More likely, your headphones aren't made for recording or your headphone mix is too loud. What headphones are you using?
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:22:02 (permalink)
    You need to either lower your headphone volume or get isolation headphones that do not bleed any music out. You can also apply a gate if its recorded already to fix it in most cases
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:23:39 (permalink)
    assuming your rig is setup correctly and you're not recording the output of your mains, what you're hearing is headphone bleed. that's not a SONAR issue, that's plain 'ole acoustics. Try adjusting your mic level and your monitoring level in the cans. Mic placement can also help with this, as could a headphone upgrade. You'll want something that is closed-back and has a snug fit. This will help keep bleed out but also allow you to monitor at a lower level.


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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:23:52 (permalink)
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:24:52 (permalink)
    You could also gate the vocal track after it is recorded. Set the threshold high enough to cut off the headphone bleed, but low enough to let everything else through.
    It will sound strange if you get too aggressive with it though.

    Erik

    edit: Also don't use too much compression on the vocals as this will bring the noise floor up. Try the gate before the compression.

    post edited by tubeydude - 2008/09/09 13:26:31
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 13:37:13 (permalink)
    Hearing what I am recording in addition to what is already recorded:
    I use an external mixer that allows me to send pre recorded tracks to my monitor system in addition to what I am currently recording. Since it is external to the computer, there is no latency to contend with. I monitor through speakers when recording an instrument direct and use headphones when recording a voice or acoustic instrument. As has been mentioned, the headphones must be isolation headphones and must be at a volume that works well.

    One trick that can erase the headphone bleed is to record another take while standing in front of the microphone of just the bleed - just fail to sing - jeep quiet. Then reverse the phase of the bleed take and mix it judiciously back into the vocal take. It should help to remove a considerable amount of bleed.



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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 14:02:43 (permalink)
    Also don't use too much compression on the vocals as this will bring the noise floor up. Try the gate before the compression.


    tubeydude is correct..An expander would be a better choice than a compressor. Also what i said in post #6..
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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 14:22:57 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mauryw

    How do you prevent recording what comes into the headphones? Is my mike too sensitive? During breaks or breaths I hear the background music in the vocal playback? How do I keep the background loud enough to get into and not have it recorded as leaks from the headphones?


    It wont matter, the music itself will over power any bleed caused by headphones. You can always edit out the breaks later as well.

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    RE: monitoring during recording 2008/09/09 15:26:29 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mauryw

    How do you prevent recording what comes into the headphones? Is my mike too sensitive? During breaks or breaths I hear the background music in the vocal playback? How do I keep the background loud enough to get into and not have it recorded as leaks from the headphones?

    Turn the headphones down to the lowest possible level where you can still hear things

     
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