ChewingAluminumFoil
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monitoring with effects
I was just telling a friend not to worry about trying to figure out how to monitor with effects and then realized maybe I should ask you folks. I've resigned myself to just hearing the dry stuff that I get from dialing the mix on my interface. Way too much latency in my system to monitor thru the 'puter.
But what do you guys get going? What if I just wanna hear some 'verb on my vocals or guitar takes? I think I've seen some interfaces with built-in effects. Is that the way we go? Or is there some way to get super low latency?
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slartabartfast
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/20 19:30:11
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Way too much latency in my system to monitor thru the 'puter. Your machine is not a monster, but you should be able to find a reverb that will work without too much latency. Avoid any "mastering" plugs or anything with a look ahead buffer. If there is too much latency to monitor a dry return through the computer, something is probably set wrong.
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gcolbert
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/20 19:49:13
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IO|2 works well for me on this so long as I avoid some specific plug-ins and synths with a lot slower machine than you are using.
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lawajava
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/20 20:09:07
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With your processing speed you should be able to monitor with lots of effects loaded. Have you reduced your latency settings on your audio device?
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ChewingAluminumFoil
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/20 20:14:22
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I had a big battle early on trying to get io2 to do glitch-free playback, so I'm probably using pretty high buffer settings. I just thought maybe that was an artifact of moving to USB2 from my old Firewire mAudio.
Even with the mAudio, which had pretty tight latency, I could still discern a pretty apreciable delay, 40-80ms, which made monitoring thru the computer unusable.
But you folks are saying I should be able to trim that down? gcolbert, care to share you audio setup for that io2?
Thanks.
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lawajava
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/20 20:17:13
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2ms - can you set it there? For input monitoring that's what I use. No discernable latency at all.
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slartabartfast
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/21 03:58:37
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I just thought maybe that was an artifact of moving to USB2 from my old Firewire mAudio. There is a speed difference in the transfer protocols in practice, but it would not introduce significant latency.
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meh
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/21 14:02:08
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I am also having some latency problems that I think I should not have. Tracking "dry" is not very inspiring.
Here are my setting....is this too much latency?
Input: 2.7 msec. 117 samples
Output: 12.3 msec 544 samples
Total Rountrip: 15.0 msec 661 samples
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jb101
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/21 15:12:22
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meh
I am also having some latency problems that I think I should not have. Tracking "dry" is not very inspiring.
Here are my setting....is this too much latency?
Input: 2.7 msec. 117 samples
Output: 12.3 msec 544 samples
Total Rountrip: 15.0 msec 661 samples
meh
That's roughly equivalent to standing fifteen feet away from your amp.
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ChewingAluminumFoil
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/21 18:33:54
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15 ms would certainly be workable. I'm in the hundreds right now and hesitant to go mucking around with audio settings again now that I'm finally able to work glitch-free. I had much tighter round trip with the mAudio. Again, if gcolbert could share his io2 setup, that might give me the confidence to fiddle.
Thanks.
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jb101
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Re:monitoring with effects
2013/03/21 19:17:11
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I do not know the io2, but have just had a little look around. It appears that it does not have ASIO drivers, but uses ASIO4ALL. I may be wrong.
I know very little about ASIO4ALL, which is basically a wrapper to make Sonar, etc., think it is ASIO.
Perhaps someone will chip in who knows about these things. I know I have read posts that have reported success with ASIO4ALL, I just have no experience with it.
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