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2018/01/20 18:34:42 (permalink)

moving volume nodes

I sometimes adjust the volume of a MIDI track by choosing the automation\volume pull down, and hitting the "W" button.  However, sometimes I want to do a fast adjust of the envelope I've already made by moving the individual nodes up or down. It seems that sometimes it is easy to do this, but other times, instead of the individual sound node going up or down, the whole sound envelope goes up or down. I have experimented by choosing different tools on the left of the control bar, but none of it makes a  difference. Any ideas?
I have Sonar X3.
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Re: moving volume nodes 2018/01/25 02:25:04 (permalink)
Since I've gotten no replies, I've reworded by question. Hopefully it will be a little easier to understand.

moving volume nodes

I sometimes adjust the volume of a MIDI track by choosing the automation\volume app within a track, and then hitting the "W" button.  However, sometimes I want to do a fast adjust of the envelope that I've already made by moving the individual volume nodes up or down with my mouse. It seems that sometimes it is easy to do this, but other times, instead of the individual sound node going up or down, the whole sound envelope goes up or down. I have experimented by choosing different tools on the left side of the control bar, but none of it makes a  difference. Any ideas? If you're not sure what I'm saying, please ask.
I have Sonar X3.
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Re: moving volume nodes 2018/01/25 02:43:31 (permalink)
If you're using the smart tool, you can right-click and hold to select the nodes you want to move. Once they are selected click and drag any of the nodes to move them. This is how I move single nodes as well. If you hold shift while moving they can be locked in the vertical or horizontal position, depending which direction you move the mouse. I find that handy when you want to, for example, move a node or nodes up/down or forwards/back without changing direction on the opposite axis. Hope that helps.
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Re: moving volume nodes 2018/01/25 16:14:18 (permalink)
It sounds like a selection issue hit Cntrl +Shift +A to deselect all. Then drag the singular node

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Re: moving volume nodes 2018/01/25 17:05:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Bristol_Jonesey 2018/01/26 10:08:10
This can also be done in PRV with both Volume ( CC7 ) Expresion ( CC10 )  and Velocity. 
I use velocity most times as it's more natural as the timber also will change on most instruments. 
This results in most sounds going from soft to harsh. 
In other words it's more natural to hit, strum, bow or blow harder or softer an instrument to create dynamics than to turn a volume up and down. 
 
Velocity is super easy to edit in PRV. And it can be done note by note, in groups or the whole track. 
I have my set benchmarks for my "band". As example all Kick and bass notes are 110. Any quick doubles or accents might be dropped down to 100. As in a the second note might be played softer. 
Hi Hat patterns are like that as well I noticed from playing them on my DTX kit, second note is always softer when playing 1/8 patterns. 
 
Organs don't have velocity in the real world so they DO use  a Volume pedal so this is one instrument I use volume on. SO I use a CC 7 lane and draw it out in PVR. 
 
There's one big reason to avoid using Sonars envelopes with midi that many are just finding out... This will not transfer to another DAW. But CC events are universal. For the last few years I always save my projects as MIDI 1 files and for this I am keeping the midi part of my projects GM compatible. 
 
post edited by Cactus Music - 2018/01/25 17:28:21

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Re: moving volume nodes 2018/01/28 14:51:44 (permalink)
Thanks. That was all helpful.
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