dave s
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multi voice
hello again, wonder if i am doing this right? Im trying to combine two patches/sounds and record them as one! Please bear with me, i seem to get a mental block with midi.,this is what im doing any comments would be helpful:
1. open new file>insert tts-> select input as psr295 (my keyboard)> select output as tts-1 >turn on auto thru.select patch as piano.
Insert midi track no3>select input as psr295>select output as tts-1 channel3>select patch as strings>turn auto thru on >arm both tracks 2 and 3 then record.
As you can see im not sure about the input / output routines, hope someone can make some sense out of this, thanks in advance
dave s
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Beagle
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 10:07:12
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that should work as long as you want the exact same notes for both tracks just different patch sounds.
you could also achieve the same thing by recording 1 track (doesn't matter which patch you choose for it) and then copying that track (or CLONING) and then set the output to the other patch.
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dave s
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 10:28:44
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Thanks for the reply Beagle.
Not sure how to CLONE but its something i will look into. Im really doing trial and error stuff based on the info from the really helpful guys on the forum.Its one way to learn i suppose i just didint want to get into bad practices from the start, which i would re- learn in the future, thanks again.
dave s
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Beagle
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 10:44:55
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to clone, just right click on the properties of the track and select CLONE. it will present you with options.
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 11:24:06
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Yes Dave,
As Beagle said, that will work.
It's a good idea to set your bank as well. Even though TTS-1 defaults to bank 0, it doesn't show that, and it's good to have that information onscreen. There are other patches in banks 1-4, and of course drums in bank 10.
One thing to be aware of when recording multiple MIDI tracks is that data will record to ALL armed tracks. Auto thru sends the data on to the synth and allows you to hear your keystrokes. In other words, you can record tracks that you may not hear while recording, but the notes will be there on playback.
What you are describing is how I did the Triangle-TTS-1 Exercise on my Soundclick page, the only difference being the output was sent to two different synths.
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dave s
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 11:30:52
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Thanks for that info Robertb. Do i take it that i need to assign the bank number in the same way as i do with the patch etc
i e give each patch its own bank?
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 11:39:48
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The patches can all be from the same bank. The bank is just a collection of patches, and setting it shows which collection you are using. Most of your sounds will come from bank 0. This has 128 patches (0-127). Banks 1-4 have 20 to 30 patches each.
Since TTS-1 defaults to bank 0, you don't absolutely have to assign it, but as your projects get more elaborate, it's good to know where you are.
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/13 11:51:21
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Thanks Robertb, im slowly starting to see the light with mc4........its taking a while tho.
Ive always used a 4 track cassette deck and the change to recording via midi has ben a bit of brain ache lol
thanks again dave s
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/14 17:00:29
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I'd like to point out that you don't have to use the TTS-1 when recording; if you select the Yamaha as the output, you'll hear the sound from the keyboard's speakers. And it doesn't matter what the patch of the PSR is set to, it will play the patch you choose in the MIDI track's properties. I use my keyboard's sounds when recording, and start thinking about soft synths as I reach a point when the song is almost finished.
As stated above, you can record 1 track and clone it as many times as you want, changing the patches in the cloned versions. I did this on one of my songs at soundclick, having a vibraphone and a flute play the same thing.
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RE: multi voice
2008/09/15 08:01:28
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As stated above yes...you can clone or copy the track as many times as needed. When getting started, if the project is primarily midi start on midi track 1, and in the track view window send it to channel 1, track 2 to channel 2, 3 to 3 and so on. This sends your track outputs to the TTS channel input. For example, if you have 6 midi tracks place the TTS resident (audio) track at track 7. This just keeps all your track and channel numbers aligned..... Once you understand TTS well, It doesn't matter what goes where. Also check out www.herbhartley.com and navigate to the music pages and check out the MC4 tips on TTS. You can send as many as 16 different midi tracks to one instance (or insertion) of TTS in your project. All can have a different patch assigned to them.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2008/09/15 08:03:30
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