need mix advise / critique (2 songs)

I don't like the guitar tones. Have tried Guitar Rig, TH2.  Any suggestions? Let me know what you think.
 
http://soundcloud.com/blakkmire/punkit-mix-04292013
 
 
http://soundcloud.com/blakkmire/getup-mix-04302013

i am using GR. I did use and eq and a compressor, but I must not be using them correctly. I am definatley looking for the "slap you upside the head", just don't know how to do it.

The lead guitar needs to come up in the mix on both songs. Everything else sounds good to me. Just don't bring the lead guitar out in front of the vocals or to far up on the other guitar. Nice jams and good mix on the rest.

Peace and blessings, John

thanks DUDE!!! (how many times have i said that in my life!?).  I don't have those plugs,  but I would think using the plugs I have will get me started. Thanks so much. that is exactly the type of example and feedback i was hoping to get. I will give it a try tonight and let you know.  Do you have any music posted?

That was the hardest thing i've had to learn is that sometimes u just have to give your ears some rest! It's still very hard for me!
Yes i have 2 songs in the songs forum. Its not me playing but i mixed and mastered them. They are What I Want and All The Same.
I'm glad to hear that u might be getting close to a sound you're looking for!

I tend to focus more on the Kick Drum, Snare Drum, Vocals and Elec. Guitars. The bass guitar i usually try to just warm up the track with it. But yes, I use a compressor and EQ and i use it on everything else. As far as EQ on the bass i always start out with a High Pass Filter at about 90Hz. I dont want to hear the bass guitar in my sub. I sometimes add some high end to the bass guitar so u can hear it in your front end speakers. I want the kick drum pounding the sub! I've got my sub at home and in my truck crossed over at about 70Hz. The compressor on the bass i'll usually start out about the same as the guitar, about 7 or 8 db's. I forgot to say earlier that i always put a high pass filter on the guitars too around 125 to 150Hz.
I also use an external crossover made by DBX with my monitors. Much more precise crossover than the one built into the KRK 10 sub which we both have.
I use a high pass filter on Every track at various frequencies.

NOW You're kicking some A$$! Definitely on the right track. Great job!

Agree, bass is more balanced, no longer has the B jumping out. Also agree bass should come down a bit, still eating up a lot of energy in the stereo mix. Definitely improving--great tips from Dude to make that happen.

Youve got a great sounding mix now! I can hear every instrument including the vocals very clearly and everything theyre doing. Just listen to it more and more and balance it out until its perfect for you. As far as the bass being too loud, thats just a matter of taste. I tend to turn the bass down too much usually. So just play around with it now. Its sounding very clear and when you can hear everything thats going on within the mix you are very very close! Awesome job! 

Personally i think you're there man. I think any mix can always be better so any changes you make from here on out is just for practice. Print a version and listen to it everywhere u can but also, start playing around with your other songs too. If you dont, you'll start to hate this mix and just think everything sounds bad. It sounds good, be proud of it!