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not all patches play (Rapture Pro)
Just FYI I was looking forward to hearing the mello patches. NSL
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/29 23:20:00
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What synth are where are the patches?
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 00:34:23
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I have noticed two problems with patches -
Gibson Les Paul Gold Top (all) and
Hollywood Edge FX
Don't Play !!! Anyone else?
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 07:57:22
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 08:26:05
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Same here. I listed some patches that weren't playing under Pattern Synths in a different thread. Also of note is the volume differences that occur between some patches.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 09:17:06
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I see the same issues with the Pattern Synths. Look at the filter cutoff value on those patches that make no sound. I bet it is at zero. Open it up and you should hear sound. I seem to remember this years ago with some patches in the standard Rapture. Not sure why it happens though...
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 10:00:24
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Anonymungus!
I have noticed two problems with patches -
Gibson Les Paul Gold Top (all) and
Hollywood Edge FX
Don't Play !!! Anyone else?
I don't have those presets (after full install) so what 'pack' are they associated with? I'm still working through but I have solved some sounds not playing. In my case it's because the MultiSamples for the packs in question weren't in the new MultiSample location. e.g., my DimPro Multisamples extras were/are associated to my Steam install of Sonar X3 Producer. Whilst the instrument elements of a Digital Sound Factory pack worked (presumably because they used standard sfzs) the vocal elements didn't (because it couldn't find the Multisample sfz). I created a junction (soft link) in the RapPro MultiSamples dir to the DimPro Multisamples DSF dir, reloaded tthe RapPro synth ... all good for that one. Syntax from cmd.exe as: cd C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Sample Data\Rapture Pro\Multisamples mklink /J "Digital Sound Factory Volume 3" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common \Cakewalk\x64\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\Digital Sound Factory Volume 3" Keep in mind - these are my files as an example. Understand what you are doing before actioning 'hacks'.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 11:37:30
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I had this with some of the patches (show up but no sound). I had done a manual install without using CCC. Once I installed some of the packs with CCC those patches did produce sound. I'm guessing the pack had installed the first time but not copied the samples into the multisamples directory.
Dan
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 11:46:18
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I have several patches that show up but don't play and none of the legacy patches play at all. Is there a way to copy or move the legacy folders so that Rap Pro can see them or should I just re-install them from CCC? Thanks.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 11:48:35
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All I did was reinstall from CCC. Make sure you point CCC to the directory you downloaded each of the packs to. Otherwise it will probably try to spend a lot of time redownloading everything.
When I reinstalled from CCC, I noticed that only some of the packs popped up and installation box. The others just said "extracting" and then the box disappeared. I'm guessing these are the ones that didn't play for me.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 12:23:27
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I installed outside of CCC, one by one. Same here as far as some patches (as listed above) don't make sound
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 12:48:33
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Dan_E10
When I reinstalled from CCC, I noticed that only some of the packs popped up and installation box. The others just said "extracting" and then the box disappeared. I'm guessing these are the ones that didn't play for me.
Dan
Thanks. I guess I'll re-install the legacy packs. I never even seen an installation box. Only the "extracting files" box that quickly disappeared.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 13:49:49
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Anonymungus!
I have noticed two problems with patches -
Gibson Les Paul Gold Top (all) and
Hollywood Edge FX
Don't Play !!! Anyone else?
The Hollywood Edge FX does not work... A better solution is found in Rapture Pro 'Factory Library'--Sound FX--presets. In other words, they sound better in there compared to the original Dim Pro. The Gibson Les Paul Gold are causing crashes; hopefully if they are working on a fix........
post edited by SimpleManZ - 2015/04/30 15:02:22
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Re: not all patches play
2015/04/30 14:04:41
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Anonymungus!
I have noticed two problems with patches -
Gibson Les Paul Gold Top (all) and
Hollywood Edge FX
Don't Play !!! Anyone else?
Same here.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 01:49:55
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I checked that all the .prog files for the Les Paul Gold Top are in the correct folder & unzipped. When I try to open one, I get a message that reads something about "drive G" which I don't use.
Will it help to re-download these sound paks?
I really love those Les Paul patches from Craig A. - Anyone know how to fix these non-working sounds? Please help us, all-knowing, all-giving, all-caring, beautiful Cakewalk gurus. Thanks!
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 03:28:41
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I bet they are still working in Dimension or Rapture too ...
As per my previous post @Mungus ... It's likely that it can't find the necessary MultiSamples/Waveshapes.
Reinstall (rather than download) may pickup or allow you to define the new MultiSamples directory ... but you'll likely be left with 2 copies in 2 locations on disk(s). You may or may not be OK with this.
I haven't installed Platinum/Cambridge yet so can't be specific with regard to the Gold Tops.
Other than looking in the registry, probably the easiest way to find your old Dimension and Rapture MultiSample/WaveShape directories is to right-click in that space on the old synth GUIs as if you were going to load a new one. (not the prog - the waveshape/sample).
You can then either copy or link the pack subdirectory to your RapturePro Multisamples directory (link example as above).
Also in RapPro - you can check the file (sample/shape) it's after by examining the active elements via the mixer and the element numbers at the top.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 06:43:18
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I re-installed just Rap Pro 32 and 64 bit and checked some of the samples that weren't working. I'm happy to report everything (so far) seems to be working. I haven't gone through all of the samples obviously but even the legacy content plays now and I didn't have to re-install those. Rap Pro sounds fantastic. Is it my imagination or does everything sound better when played through Rap Pro? awesomeness!!
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 09:34:36
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Thanks ShellstaX, this all makes sense. I'll work on it, I'll get 'em working!
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 12:43:53
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Anonymungus!
I get a message that reads something about "drive G" which I don't use.
Most of us are all experiencing the same issue. There have been workarounds posted in other threads.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 17:01:02
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Well the patches are still hit and miss. Although I am fairly good with a computer, hacking the registry isn't something I want to even attempt. There are still quite a few samples that aren't playing. I really like and respect Cakewalk and their overall mission, but for crying out loud we shouldn't have to jump through hoops like this and troubleshoot a piece of software in order to get it to work. It should be as simple as install and play like most other software I've purchased. It's not like I've redirected the samples to be installed anywhere else but on my C:Drive Rant over. 
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 17:20:21
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Sadly I agree. What we do know is it will improve,they have acknowledged which makes them a...OK in my book. So at this stage maybe best to wait for a couple of months for a service pack.
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Re: not all patches play
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 17:54:20
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Geo524
It should be as simple as install and play like most other software I've purchased. It's not like I've redirected the samples to be installed anywhere else but on my C:Drive
Rant over.
I with ya on this. But I have to say that I have a different install situation. I have Dim pro installed from long ago on another drive. That drive has follwed me around to the different "Home PCs" I have built (yes I still build mine!). Installed SPlat with C3 and ICR if I let it install Dim Pro or it just did the whole thing by itself. Anyway, I have a SSD and don't want Dim Pro on my SSD, so I have to fix that. And now I wanted Rap Pro to go to my big HD with all my other stuff and.......... It's not a normal situation. However, if there was something in Rap Pro that allowed me to choose/change where it looks for stuff, problem solved. This has been suggested for both Dim Pro and Rapture long long ago. Have no idea why CW would put out something like this with out this one feature?!!
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 18:07:44
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Doktor Avalanche
Sadly I agree. What we do know is it will improve,they have acknowledged which makes them a...OK in my book. So at this stage maybe best to wait for a couple of months for a service pack.
Thanks. A couple months?!! Yikes. I hope that isn't the case.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 18:14:54
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Geo524
It should be as simple as install and play like most other software I've purchased. It's not like I've redirected the samples to be installed anywhere else but on my C:Drive
Rant over.
I with ya on this.
But I have to say that I have a different install situation.
I have Dim pro installed from long ago on another drive. That drive has follwed me around to the different "Home PCs" I have built (yes I still build mine!).
Installed SPlat with C3 and ICR if I let it install Dim Pro or it just did the whole thing by itself. Anyway, I have a SSD and don't want Dim Pro on my SSD, so I have to fix that. And now I wanted Rap Pro to go to my big HD with all my other stuff and.......... It's not a normal situation.
However, if there was something in Rap Pro that allowed me to choose/change where it looks for stuff, problem solved. This has been suggested for both Dim Pro and Rapture long long ago. Have no idea why CW would put out something like this with out this one feature?!!
I know what you mean about being able to direct the samples where you want them to go. We should have that option and by this point and time it should be easy. We're not talking new technology here.  Toontrack software makes this task fairly easy. Only thing is (talking to myself here) you have to remember to redirect future ezx packs to that drive once you've chosen the option to do so. Screwed me up big time once. 
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 21:09:24
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Doktor Avalanche
Sadly I agree. What we do know is it will improve,they have acknowledged which makes them a...OK in my book. So at this stage maybe best to wait for a couple of months for a service pack.
Geo524
Thanks. A couple months?!! Yikes. I hope that isn't the case.
It probably is. Cakewalk has built up a reputation to be slow but reliable. They will probably speed up over the next 12 months. Regardless of anything any sensible consumer should have have confidence ... And patience....This is all cool in my book nothing is instant.
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Re: not all patches play
2015/05/01 21:23:12
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I forgot to say this is a huge improvement... To be honest they were rubbish until Gibson took over... Now they are getting better and better... Far from perfect right now but it's a brand I am trusting more and more.
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Re: not all patches play (Rapture Pro)
2015/05/01 22:56:19
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Addding to the list, Anderton Electronic Guitars, Bass_Round, Bass_RoundDeep, and Bass_Stealth are not making any sound for me. (odd that I am complaining that something named "stealth" should be quiet...)
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Re: not all patches play (Rapture Pro)
2015/05/01 23:02:16
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Anderton Guitars can be linked / copied / reinstalled as per above and other posts on the topic. It probably a good idea to backup any of your LFO directories first as per http://forum.cakewalk.com...120-Chad-m3214969.aspx [EDIT]: Hold that thought ... the 3 you specifically mention don't work for me either ... taking a closer look.
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Re: not all patches play (Rapture Pro)
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Magic Russ
Addding to the list, Anderton Electronic Guitars, Bass_Round, Bass_RoundDeep, and Bass_Stealth are not making any sound for me. (odd that I am complaining that something named "stealth" should be quiet...)
Fix:For those 3 I'm assuming case sensitivity in the .prog(?) So reload the multisamples, and save the prog (suffixed with your initials if you like): Each have 2 active elements (as seen from Mixer) Load the Multisamples:For each of those elements (via the numbers - top center) Load the sample/shape, in the OSC/SMP region, from your %MultiSamples%\TechnoGuitars directory as: Bass_Round:Element 1: sc03(.wav) Element 2: sc02 (Note: I initially thought I saw these as 'cleanmidpu_1' for both ... but when I went back they were sc03,sc02) Bass_RoundDeep:Element 1: octaves_loop_g2 Element 2: sc03 Bass_Stealth:Element 1: sc01 Element 2: sc01 Save the Progs (for each one in turn): Via Program Dropdown - top right Save Program As ... %Patches&Presets%\Rapture (legacy)\Electronic Guitars\Bass\name_new_suffix.prog(obviously you can replace the originals if you prefer). They will present themselves in the Browser when you go back.
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