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ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
Here's what I've done: 1) recorded an AUDIO (external) metronome track 2) hit record on another empty audio track, and the speed & pitch of the just-recorded click track is now HIGHER I'm gonna cry... I have both metronome boxes UNchecked(under Project/Metronome) :( R
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:16:12
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are you maybe monitoring from a different soundcard than you're recording? what soundcard(s) are you using? what is your sampling rate set to?
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:18:50
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no.... do not record an AUDIO metronome track. It will not line up properly to the BPM of the project.... Use TTS... set the channel to 10 as I describe on my website for drums..... insert bass and snare and let TTS play it back instead of using the metronome. NOW..... if you decide, you can bounce it to audio and it will be synched to the BPM. from my site: How to enter a drum track in MC4/5 open MC4/5 choose new project...call it midi drums. choose a normal project... this gives you an audio & midi track. MC5 only shows one track when you insert a synth. click on the midi track & select VIEW >STAFF to get the staff view. click on the draw tool and insert a few notes in a few measures...it doesn't matterwhat notes...we just want something to be triggering the midi. NOW.. highlight the audio track by clicking on it. Right click in the FX bin select soft synths and select Cakewalk-TTS..minimize the synth window. SO FAR>>>SO GOOD> Just one more step and you should have sound!!!!! Now...double click in the midi track control area....and the track properties window will open. Select INPUT=none..... OUTPUT= Cakewalk-TTS.....CHANNEL =10 Hit Play...you should now hear sound. If you don't hear anything at this point...double check to be sure the rig is working properly hope that helped..... What sound card are you using? It sounds like you have synch timing issues with the sound card that is throwing off the speed.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/07/31 20:21:08
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celticpiping
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:28:08
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ok lads, I know this isn't the answer u wanna hear, but I'm using the internal/built-in sound "card" aka onboard. I record INTO the software via Presonus Audiobox USB. I tried that TTS method, but honestly got lost trying to get the hiWoodblock to sound right , timing wise..hard to explain, but no matter how/when/where I dropped the notes within one measure, it never played 4 consistent in-time beats. Maybe I should stick to playing music? :O Thanks lads, for helping me out though... Rich
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:30:02
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ps. Soundcard is a: Realtek / ALC888 Chipset
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:33:46
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pps. My Audio setting under Options\Audio is: 44khz/16 bit If I try & change to 44/24 it squawks & tells me the sound card doesn't like that, and says 'setting to 44K/16 bit' So, I'm assuming thaqt all should be well if I stay at 44K/16-bit
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:36:32
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ps. Soundcard is a: Realtek / ALC888 Chipset There you go. That's your problem. Realteck onboard soundcards are notorious for these types of issues. I had one when I first started also and eventually had to replace it with a better soundcard designed for digital audio recording. Pete
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celticpiping
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:42:29
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Pete... Do you have a different, more..palatable answer? :( Thanks much. R
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:43:26
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celticpiping ok lads, I know this isn't the answer u wanna hear, but I'm using the internal/built-in sound "card" aka onboard. I record INTO the software via Presonus Audiobox USB. OK... there's your problem. You only should be using ONE CARD in...and out.... the same card. By using a different card to play it back, you are having synch/timing issues caused by using two different cards. The timing signals are different for the two cards and they are not able to synch to each others signals.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/07/31 20:44:42
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:53:03
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Hmmm. I didn't think MC had the capability to utilize more than one soundcard at a time. I wouldn't think he would be able to record using one soundcard and then play back on another soundcard without making a conscious effort to change the drivers in the Audio options. If he was doing that then he would know because it doesn't happen automatically. I'm confused!
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celticpiping
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:55:40
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ok, well, actually my answer was a bit misleading. When I said "but I'm using the internal/built-in sound", I means that I have that installed. But actually all of my settings seem to indicate that I'm configured for the USB Audiobox. So, here's what I just did: I just went through control panel/sounds and changed every setting to audiobox USB. I then noticed it didn't fix my problem. SO: then I went back into Control Panel Sounds and changed the 'Sound Recording' option to "LineIn/MicIn" Now, my click track sounds proper when I hit record on other tracks. So, it appears that having the Presonus set up as the default "windows" "Sound Recording" device...is messing things up. Maybe that: was the point of conflict. R
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 20:59:27
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R - do NOT try to use the onboard soundcard at all inside MC. you can use it for windows sounds if you want, but ONLY use the presonus when using MC. monitor from the presonus (use headphones or connect speakers up to it). in fact, I'd suggest using ASIO driver mode (OPTIONS>AUDIO>DRIVER MODE = ASIO) - that way you cannot use the onboard soundcard inside MC.
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celticpiping
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 21:02:28
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actually, I just ALSO discovered that by making that change I just described above, I just lost input signal to MC. hmmmmm SO, change "Sound Recording" back to "Audiobox USB", and I get level back in MC. and guess what else...high pitch click... :<
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celticpiping
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/07/31 21:05:00
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ok ok ok I changed to ASIO.... nowwwwww it seems to like that. I wish it were simpler... and that, coming from a System Analyst...
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Re:ok be4 I throw my PC against a wall..(Metronome issues yet again)
2010/08/01 20:02:38
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Rich - I just listened to the snippets you have on your website for "Sweet Fragrance" (actually I thought it was entitled "Spring" until I figured out that is your wife's name!) this is you and your wife? very very nice work!!! what was this CD recorded on? a professional studio? and congratulations on your adoption!
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