Malakidreams
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phantom power
so what is a good brand to buy? I saw a cheap beringer phantom power box for $39.99. what cables do I need for it and how do I hook it to my computer? can I hook it up with out a mixer. I have a mic cable for my dynamic mic that hooks directly into my interface. could plug the condensor mic into the phantom power and the phantom power into the audio interface? thanks Kevin
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:19:43
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Model # on the phantom power box? Give us a rundown on what you have so far. Sorry, but I can't remember what everybody is using. A Xenyx802 may still be a better deal.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:22:39
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:31:29
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I have and a m-audio fast track audio interface. m-audio speakers I plan to upgrade later. Edirol pcr-800- midi keyboard. cheap samson dynamic mic from best buy. I plug my mic into the mic input of the interface. Livewire Advantage 15 foot mic cable. I plan to get the MXL990
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:36:11
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just checked out the combo MXL990/991 for $99. looks awesome. I will probably go with the set.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:50:18
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The ART Tube pre's that James mentioned are popular. I would suspect that the Behringer pre is the same circuit as what is in the Xenyx. Another $20, and you would have 2 pre's should you need them. The XLR cable you probably have now would get your mic connected. From the preamp to the Fast Track, a 1/4" cable is probably appropriate. You would connect that to a line input.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:53:10
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ORIGINAL: Malakidreams so what is a good brand to buy? I saw a cheap beringer phantom power box for $39.99. what cables do I need for it and how do I hook it to my computer? can I hook it up with out a mixer. I have a mic cable for my dynamic mic that hooks directly into my interface. could plug the condensor mic into the phantom power and the phantom power into the audio interface? thanks Kevin I have one and it works. You need two mic cables, From the box, one to your interface and one to your powered mic.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 16:53:49
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I would have to get a preamp then? I cant go straight in?
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 17:09:02
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If you are looking at the 990/991 set, I would definitely consider the Xenyx802. Phantom power for both mics, plus some EQ is available with the mixer. Understand that the mixer is serving to power the mics. You can isolate them by panning them hard left and right, and send the output to mono tracks. It may be a bit tricky to wrap your head around it, but it offers a fairly strong package.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 17:42:16
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I wouldnt be recording both mics at the same time though. Im still doing 1 track at a time. I probably wouldnt need to pan.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 17:44:14
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keneds, so cable from mic to box. then cable frm box to interface?
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RE: phantom power
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 18:56:28
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 19:24:06
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How would I hook up the Xenyx802 to my audio interface?
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 21:50:59
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Mic with XLR cable to XLR input on mixer or Audio Buddy; line out of mixer/Audio Buddy to line in of interface. You're basically putting it in line with your current mic routing.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 22:01:35
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I would have to get a preamp then? I cant go straight in? That's gonna depend on your interface. You might need a mixer if your interface doesn't have 48v phantom power. Lots of mixers do have the preamps and phantom power you need. The other option is to buy a preamp with 48vPP built in.... you would plug you new mic into it and run a cable out to your interface or mixer..... depending on your current rig.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/07 23:59:56
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If your mic has an XLR cable (XLR on both ends), plug it into the mixer/ audio buddy. If the mixer/audio buddy has an XLR output, connect that to the Fast Track's XLR input. If there is no XLR output, use the line out from the mixer/audio buddy to line in of the Fast Track. Make sure you buy any extra cables before you leave the store. You may need another XLR cable or more RCA cords.
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Malakidreams
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 03:01:05
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Hi, question bout the Xenyx802, does it have phantom power. Is it tube? also, I hear good things about the Sterling Audio ST55 Large Diaphragm FET Condenser Microphone. anyone using this?
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 07:14:19
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yes, it has phantom power no it does not have a tube I'm not using the ST55, so I can't comment on it. I don't think I remember specifically anyone who does use sterlings, but I know some people on the forums have used them before. I can't recall any complaints about them.
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RE: phantom power
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 16:47:10
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Kevin, this is really only an opinion, but I have the mxl990, and for my purposes, it is fine. Very clear and clean, no problems, seems to be well built, all of that. I don't have and have never used the sterling model, but I would guess it is a "get what you pay for" type of thing. A two hundred dollar mike should be of a better quality that a one hundred dollar mike, even better than a fifty, or twenty, etc. And this guy is in the business of making a sale, so, his opinion is suspect from that angle. What do you need? Bass cut and decible increase can be accomplished in the program, not needed in the mic, but having the extra option/switch/accessory etc., is always a good thing. Less noise, I am not sure about that, since he is not quoting a noise to signal ratio, and maybe they are pretty close, maybe not, but I get very little noise from any of my mics, including the shure's that are over thirty years old. The tube amp might have a warmer sound but there was a recent discussion about tube pre amps here that suggest maybe small, cheap, utility type pre amps may not provide the sound they espouse, simply because the tube is never utilized as it needs to be to get that sound. If you are setting up a professional studio, you pay for the best mics. If you are recording at home, you get the best you can afford, but within a budget. Again, just opinions Later Albert
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 16:51:49
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Kevin, I can't speak for the Sterling. As for noise, the MXL mics don't introduce any perceptible noise, that I have noticed. I am running my MXL's through a Yamaha MG10/2 mixer, which has very quiet preamps. Go to my Sound click page, and listen to P45 Soundcheck. This was a test of the MXL mics. NO EQ or effects. You can hear a lot of the room ambience, and the mics are not positioned exactly right. On the whole though, this is a fairly accurate recording of what the guitar actually sounds like. Listen, and if you are cool with what you hear, take that into consideration. The bass cut on the Sterling may be worthwhile, but the db increase is kind of null. The MXL's are more than capable of overdriving my inputs. You can apply EQ, so even the bass cut is not really that big of a deal. Also, you are dealing with salespeople that may never have actually used the mic, and are just spitting out rhetoric.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 17:01:17
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thanks, my main concern is the vocals. I am plugging direclty in for the bass and the guitar.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 17:05:02
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Im just sick of my muffled sounding cheapo dynamic mic. I want super clarity. well an accurate sounding vocal track. It sounds better when I record dry vocals on my digital camcorder than with the mic I have using in mc4. I want people to not be able to tell how cheap the mic I am using is by listening. Then it would be my little secret, well and you all in the forum. thanks
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 17:15:54
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I don't have anything posted with vocals, but I have used the 990 to record my daughter and her friends. The 991 is not so well suited for vocals. Even though the track I have posted is with an acoustic guitar, it should give you an idea of what to expect from the 990.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 17:18:49
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in addition to what these fine gentlemen have said - don't let salespeople talk you into something you don't want. the sterling is probably a better mic than the 990/991 combo. but you get what you can afford and it will work until you outgrow it. as far as the audio buddy - it might do well with the 990/991 combo mics, I'm not sure. I had one before and I didn't like it. but it worked until I outgrew it.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 17:23:49
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Im thinking I should save up alittle more and get something I wont have to upgrade anytime soon.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 17:32:44
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In the end, it's really up to you. My rule of thumb is "can I tell the difference?". If you can, then go for it.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 18:00:59
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thanks everyone. So is the Xenyx802 a very decent preamp.
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RE: phantom power
2009/03/14 18:04:28
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if it were me, I'd buy the xenyx 802 before I'd buy the audio buddy.
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