gt2004
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 313
- Joined: 2006/02/10 20:16:16
- Status: offline
please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
I keep watching this video and i feel like im still doing something wrong. I was wondering if one of the Pros on this site can just create a dummy project and email it to me so i can take a look and see what im doing wrong that i don't get that effect. I asked on the tecnique part of this forum no one wanted to reply so im asking it here. I looked at another video and the guy was adding gate ?? im lost now LOL I just want a dummy track doesn't matter what syths you use i just want to see how its done like 10 tracks with its own Bus like the video tranceillusional2002@yahoo.com thanks guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFTUJP-qs1Q
post edited by gt2004 - 2010/07/20 02:43:52
DUAL Processor XEON W5590 INTEL 160GB SSD G2 INTEL 80GB SSD G2 INTEL 80GB SSD G2 24GB ECC RAM EMU-0404 Xboard 49 KRK Rokit PR5, Mackie HR824 Sonar X1 64 Bit Windows 7 64Bit Pro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGhEm5oqdgE
|
wintaper
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
- Total Posts : 464
- Joined: 2007/12/11 22:52:07
- Location: New Jersey
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 13:05:24
(permalink)
Create a project with 2 tracks - Insert the Sonitus Gate on Track 2 -- Add a Send to track 1 and choose the Sonitus Side-Chain from the list. Only a few effects support Side-Chaining. It is a "feature" of VST3 - but Sonar doesn't support VST3
Intel i7 @ 3.60GHz, 12GB DDR3 1600MHz, Win7 / OSX 10.6.6, Sonar 8.53 / Pro Tools 9.0.1, RME RayDAT, UAD2-Quad, Focusrite OctoPre (x4), Euphonix MC Mix, Tascam US2400, Monette Ajna (x2), 15' Macbook Pro
|
ba_midi
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 14061
- Joined: 2003/11/05 16:58:18
- Location: NYC
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 13:40:44
(permalink)
I actually gave a very long and detailed reply to a similar post in the Techniques section just recently. You might want to do a search for it - it should answer your question(s). http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2054127&mpage=1#2056312 That's a link to the thread. It was asking about getting a pulsating effect, but the answer I gave in length should address your question as well.
post edited by ba_midi - 2010/07/20 13:43:44
|
ba_midi
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 14061
- Joined: 2003/11/05 16:58:18
- Location: NYC
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 13:41:59
(permalink)
wintaper Create a project with 2 tracks - Insert the Sonitus Gate on Track 2 -- Add a Send to track 1 and choose the Sonitus Side-Chain from the list. Only a few effects support Side-Chaining. It is a "feature" of VST3 - but Sonar doesn't support VST3 Other than the Sonitus Gate and Compressor that comes with Sonar, there are quite a number of 3rd party plugins that now support side-chaining in VST2 format. Voxengo, FabFilter, Density, many others.
|
wintaper
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
- Total Posts : 464
- Joined: 2007/12/11 22:52:07
- Location: New Jersey
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 15:08:55
(permalink)
Sonitus is DirectX - not VST
Intel i7 @ 3.60GHz, 12GB DDR3 1600MHz, Win7 / OSX 10.6.6, Sonar 8.53 / Pro Tools 9.0.1, RME RayDAT, UAD2-Quad, Focusrite OctoPre (x4), Euphonix MC Mix, Tascam US2400, Monette Ajna (x2), 15' Macbook Pro
|
ba_midi
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 14061
- Joined: 2003/11/05 16:58:18
- Location: NYC
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 15:19:29
(permalink)
wintaper Sonitus is DirectX - not VST Yes, I was just adding that there are other plugins available (VSTs though) that do side-chaining.
|
wintaper
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
- Total Posts : 464
- Joined: 2007/12/11 22:52:07
- Location: New Jersey
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 15:24:08
(permalink)
I use the Sonitus Comp sidechained all the time. By itself not a problem. The issues arise when you mix and match DirectX and VST in the same chain. I believe one format takes stereo-interleaved stream and the other takes dual mono stream when inserted on a "stereo" track. Occasionally I get a loud pop on playback instantiation - probably some artifact in a buffer somewhere.
Intel i7 @ 3.60GHz, 12GB DDR3 1600MHz, Win7 / OSX 10.6.6, Sonar 8.53 / Pro Tools 9.0.1, RME RayDAT, UAD2-Quad, Focusrite OctoPre (x4), Euphonix MC Mix, Tascam US2400, Monette Ajna (x2), 15' Macbook Pro
|
ba_midi
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 14061
- Joined: 2003/11/05 16:58:18
- Location: NYC
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 15:28:23
(permalink)
wintaper I use the Sonitus Comp sidechained all the time. By itself not a problem. The issues arise when you mix and match DirectX and VST in the same chain. I believe one format takes stereo-interleaved stream and the other takes dual mono stream when inserted on a "stereo" track. Occasionally I get a loud pop on playback instantiation - probably some artifact in a buffer somewhere. Hmm, interesting. I haven't experienced that. I did find out that Sonar doesn't seem to let 3rd party plugins work as side-chains with the 64bit Double Precision Engine engaged (either in audio options or during bouncedowns/exports). But I've had no problem mixing the Sonitus plugins with 3rd party side-chainable VST plugins -- which I do often lately. Sonar definitely needs to do some work in this area, though, so that there are no barriers to this technique. Actually - one correction ... I'm not sure I've mixed DX + VST in the "same" chain as you state - so that may be why I've not experienced that problem.
post edited by ba_midi - 2010/07/20 15:29:37
|
djjhart@aol.com
Max Output Level: -53.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2189
- Joined: 2008/10/24 08:45:46
- Status: offline
Re:please someone help with sidechaining Sonar 8.5
2010/07/20 17:49:38
(permalink)
Computer - Intel Q9550, Intel BX48bt2 MB, W8 64 bit. 8 gb Ram, SSD Hardware - Tascam Fw1884 Control surface only, Ni S49 Komplete Kontroll,Roland Quad Capture, Ni Machine,Kore, Focusrite A/D converter, Blue Mic, Roland Gaia, Akai Mpk49, Yamaha HS80 Monitors.Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved. http://soundcloud.com/johnhartson/tracks http://www.youtube.com/user/jhart1313
|