? pondering.. did cake mess with ASIO?

I'm afraid to start this thread. (lets keep the bickering to a minimum please) but...
pondering..the real and pertinent question is : did cake mess with ASIO?  in comonation of the C++ BS (this I have no idea about)

I'm getting lower latencies with X1 . and all the heartache that comes with X1 too.
with all the problems I got. now my other daws are screwed. up those that use Asio ( I won't mention them)
could this be the major factor? only cake can tell us. I doubt they will  if they did.

just a review of my issues.

1. strange things x1 does. (unexplainable, just weirdness). this in of itself means what? I dont know, but dont attack me because that's what happened. in my case.
2. metronome unpredictable behavior.
3. audio snap doesn't work correctly.
4. x1 breaks some 8.5 functionality. snap to grid in my case, metronome, template files. extra. other things for other people.
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5. plug in needing re authorizing. specifically superior drummer. this has happened multiple times within three days. I so a system restore and all is well. then it happens again.
6. uninstall of X1 make #5 happen. why I couldn't fathom an idea why.
7. uninstall of x1 breaks 8.5. ( i did a total reinstall from OS to daws.) all of the above has happened to me twice.


disregarding the above, because I don't want to debate that. what I want to know is; did cake tweak ASIO?

I'm getting lower latency for sure with X1.
my interface is the Tascrap fw1884 ( I say that because I hate tascam) but love frontier designs.
I swear by god I'll never ever own any tascam gear again.

The need for the infamous Hot Patch was the result of X1a having been tweaked for use with Roland's ASIO drivers.

So how does he repair his asio?
To restore it to its original state?
I'm not having these issues, I'm just curious (and shocked that an application can change stock drivers like that)

shocked that an application can change stock drivers like that

Cakewalk is not going to alter your ASIO drivers. They might alter the way SONAR interacts with ASIO, but the drivers are the property and responsibility of your interface vendor.

i know this sounds strange but i had huge latency issues on homestudio 7xl..once i downloaded x1 they were gone..i also dont have that problem in homestudio after i installed x1..maybe something i did?..i didnt play with my latency setting i know that

I experience better performance (Better than with 8.5.3) and a lot more crashes.
Using ASIO drivers for RME FF400.

I submitted a tech support ticket on this very issue.  I have observed on two different boxes that Sonar X1 can leave the ASIO driver for my FireFace 800 interface in an unstable/unusable state (recognized, but no audio plays) for other DAW's. This is with X1a (and tried the hot fix).  The reply I received was basically 'not an issue'.

If I load a processor intensive project (like the Pop demo) on either machien (one a 9300 dual core and the other a i7, both with 8 gig of ram, fast SATA drives, TI FireWire cards), the demo will distort and drop out lower latencies.  If I close Sonar and then load (insert other DAW here), audio will not work.  If I restart the machine and load (insert other DAW here), everything is fine.  This does not happen with any of my other ASIO interfaces (StudioLive 1642, ElevenRack, or Pod HD500).  It appears to possibly be driver specific - either that or my FF800 is going bad (remote possibility since all other applications, including Sonar 8.5.3 work fine).

I have seen several reports from various folks here having seemingly unrelated, but similar issues about their ASIO interfaces.  (I should have kept track of the threads).

I might have to do some memory dumps to see if my suspicions are valid (I develop large scale database applications and have spent some in the past doing this type of stuff).  I don't claim to be an expert at programming audio applications, but I do know there is something going on here.  I really don't want to do the memory dumps - I don't believe it is my job.

For now I am waiting for X1b and using other DAW software - hopefully they will figure out what is going here.

For what it's worth, my Cake badged UA-101 has exactly the same (crap) workable latency figures with X1 as 8.5.3. 20-odd ms the round trip if I want stability and no crackling (I was getting around 5ms with a Delta 44), which doesn't bother me as I don't use VSTIs (or monitor off the tracks as I record) much.

X1 seems far more stable than 8.5.3 on my 64bit Vista setup though - no crashes at all as yet (crosses fingers and waits for blue screen...).