potentially lost another project in X1. **SOLVED**

been working on this project for several months now and just the other day found it wouldn't open. X1 is stuck trying to open it with the blue spinning circle that indicates it's loading - but it doesn't. i left it spinning for hours. I tried all the tricks, ie, safe mode, no plugins.. etc.. restarted etc.. I have other projects that load fine so i know its isolated to this one. same thing happened to one other project a while ago. lost it. i tried to create a new project and import the tracks but then they don't line up and would likely spend months trying to get them perfectly aligned if even i could. i thought i had versioning activated but i cannot seem to locate the versions. yes, autosave was activated but those files suffer the same fate (ie, no open) not sure what to do. i suspect a track was corrupted or a plugin conflict is the cause. what to do ???

do you know how to find the back up files created by versioning?
They can't be opened from Sonar's regular "open file" dialog.  You can navigate to them directly using windows, or there is a key command i think that allows you to (shift click?)

I'm just saying, double check- because if you have those versions saved somewhere, you might be fine.

scook


If all else fails, maybe tech support can recover the cwp for you if you send them a copy.

FWIW, Tech Support doesn't have access to any special tools for project recovery. In the past people who had projects from older versions of SONAR (prior to 7) could send them to support and we would re-save them in a newer version. Since the project was originally authored in the X series it already includes this code.

The two things I can recommend to the original poster is going back to a previous project file or dragging the project file from the browser into a new blank project. Also if you've updated any 3rd party plug-ins you may want to roll back.

Run a disk scan. Sounds like your disk drive has issues. 

Kalle, thanks for your reply. All the usual happened in safe mode, ie, pop up box with options to select plugins,etc but then the project never opens, sonar seems to hang. keep in mind, other projects open as normal so i don't believe its my hard drive. One thing that leads me to believe it may be my fault is that, yes, i recently did defrag the hard drive and then noticed this problem soon after, though i'm not sure it happened directly afterwards.. the project is in its right place, checked ! thanks !

 Seth, I am just now trying the drag method into a new project.. still hanging, but i now see the "opening project..." appear at the top, but still too long. could it be that when I defragged the drive recently, it moved a track or two out of the project folder and is making sonar struggle to find it ??

The versions, if the feature is enabled, are located in the directory with the cwp file. FYI, just because other data on the drive appears ok does not mean the disk is trouble free. Defrag would not relocate files with respect to the directory tree even if it physically relocated them on the drive. You may want to check your Windows event logs.

 thanks bob. I'm currently trying to find where sonar stores versions as I know i had activated versioning..

Hi Josh, 
last year I had the same prob,
it was possible to open zhis projects with sonar 8.5.
Then I had the possibility to remove suspect software aso.

Good luck
Pragi 

 Ok, so i reinstalled my previous version of sonar 6 . I deleted the suspected plugins and there was one groove clip drum track that I bounced. This worked. problem solved. So, yes, it was a plugin that caused the problem. I deleted a few suspects so i cannot be sure which was the culprit but i have my suspicions that is was the ampeg SVX plug that did, as that was amongst the last I employed. Thanks again for all your help !!

 thanks to all who posted here ! Pragi - yes, lesson learned !! i though i was good at saving but now, i see that i need to save after every session (which is almost every day...) One question remains tho, why didn't the project load in "safe mode" with all plugins not loaded ? ?? As it appears to have been a plugin problem...