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2011/08/23 15:41:09 (permalink)

problems already, (and I've just started)

I'm hearing a lot of faulty notes, for instance sometimes when i play the song I'm working on to see how it sounds, a note will "stick" and keep playing longer than I've set it for, another problem I've seen is that when there are drums in the mix I'll hear beats that I didn't even put in there. Whats causing this and how can I stop it, and if I can't stop it will the final exported song sound like this? I'm using music creator 5.
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    jasonking
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/23 15:49:39 (permalink)
    hi, are u copying parts you dont want by mistake and pasting them into your timeline?.. that could be it...
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/23 15:53:41 (permalink)
    no not that i know of, I normally dont move the tracks too much and when i do i alwase make sure the "delete previous tracks" box.
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/23 15:55:21 (permalink)
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    no not that i know of, I normally dont move the tracks too much and when i do i alwase make sure the "delete previous tracks" box is checked.

    also im noticing it skipping a few notes that I know i put in there
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/23 21:38:06 (permalink)
    is this MIDI or audio?  how are you recording it?  with a keyboard/controller (if MIDI) or by using the mouse?  what is your output?  what soundcard do you have/

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/24 07:31:29 (permalink)
    Ahhh... the most important question to start with is: What sound card are you using?. Is it by chance the factory sound card? 

     A factory card can do all of the things you are describing and more since it is not designed to handle the amount of data we tend to force though it.  Cake walk stuff is pretty intense stuff, from a data standpoint. And if you have synths, processing the data into audio in real time is not something a factory card is good at. 

    Most of us are using after-market "Music Interfaces" ( just a fancy word for sound card) that ARE designed to do one thing..... handle the music data and processing required by the recording software packages we are using. 

    Ask questions before you buy one (if you are still on a factory card) so you get the right one the first time. 



    edit: don't misunderstand me.... small audio projects with no midi or synths can run fairly well on a factory card..... it is the midi and synths that give it trouble most often.
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/25 18:34:51 (permalink)
    so is this upgraded sound card i need going to be a usb plug in or what, oh and yes im using soft synths with the MIDI system.
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/08/25 18:51:23 (permalink)
    Depends on what you want and what you have.
    There are audio interfaces you can install in the box. Some connect with USB or FireWire, USB being the most popular since almost every computer in the world has multiple USB ports. Mine is a FireWire device.

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/09/01 19:42:43 (permalink)
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    ...a note will "stick" and keep playing longer than I've set it for
     
     
    I had this problem until I upgraded MC5 (free upgrade on the Cake site)...what worked for my stuck notes before then was freezing the synth.  Good luck!
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/09/05 03:56:01 (permalink)
    A factory card can do all of the things you are describing and more since it is not designed to handle the amount of data we tend to force though it.  Cake walk stuff is pretty intense stuff, from a data standpoint. And if you have synths, processing the data into audio in real time is not something a factory card is good at. 
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/09/05 12:24:39 (permalink)
    unbelievable.  

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/09/10 01:20:15 (permalink)
    i seem to have the same problem... I use a dell studio xps, pretty fast computer, and currently using music creator 6, but when i record, i get little wierd popping sounds.. like bad quality cables, except for i know they're not, i aslo tried using a sound card i had, made by creative audigy, but couldnt get it to work correctly. Any hints?? or do i also need to go out there and get a decent sound card, and btw, by computer has HD sounds built in..
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/09/10 07:33:13 (permalink)
    yes, your soundcard.  check my website for help on that.  a good soundcard investment will resolve a lot of problems and I have recommendations for purchasing soundcards there as well.

    in the meantime, change to MME driver mode since you're using your onboard soundcard and increase the latency slider to the SAFE side.

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/09/10 09:35:19 (permalink)
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    i seem to have the same problem... I use a dell studio xps, pretty fast computer, and currently using music creator 6, but when i record, i get little wierd popping sounds.. like bad quality cables, except for i know they're not, i aslo tried using a sound card i had, made by creative audigy, but couldnt get it to work correctly. Any hints?? or do i also need to go out there and get a decent sound card, and btw, by computer has HD sounds built in..

    Yeah... you need to get a dedicated USB interface (sound card specifically for recording) . The popping is typical since the factory cards are not designed for the massive load we place on them with MC.  Upgraded gamer cards are not any better than factory.


    As Beagle said, adjusting latency and buffers, and changing to the MME driver mode can get you going if you are not working on big projects with lots of audio tracks and synths too. A few audio tracks can be done just fine in MME. 


    However, to get the full power of MC6...and it is a very powerful DAW, you will need a good interface to be able to tap into all it's power. 


    But Oh My, when you do... it is sweet. 

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/11/06 15:21:13 (permalink)
    ok one more question, can i get these soundcards at best buy, wal mart ect, or do i have to order them online. if so is there a link to a store that sells different brands of soundcards?
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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/11/06 15:43:14 (permalink)
    I would not try to buy recording soundcards at best buy or walmart.  if you don't have a Guitar Center near you then I'd suggest buying them online from one of these:

    www.musiciansfriend.com
    www.americanmusical.com
    www.sweetwater.com
    www.zzounds.com

    look at my website for recommendations of soundcard manufacturers and models.

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/11/06 20:25:46 (permalink)
    Yup.... go to a music store like Sam Ash or Guitar Center or one of the online stores..... and talk with the folks in the recording department. 

    Most of those guys ( at least the ones here in NC) all have studios and know about the interfaces they sell. 

    A nice USB interface will work fine. Do not buy a gamers card..... from Walmart no matter what it says about good music.... 

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/11/08 15:43:04 (permalink)
    i had some popping and clickings with the factory soundcard.  i bought and continue to use a Lexicon Alpha.  i discovered that once you do some work using the external soundcard is important to connect it every time you're going to work, even if your're going to enter one note.  because when i bought the Alpha i didn't know that it was a  soundcard, (somebody had mentioned it was a pre-amp and that i needed it) i sometimes did work without connecting it to the computer, and then the popping and clickings will start again.  once i understood what it was and what's meant to do i've never have had a pop or click again.

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    Re:problems already, (and I've just started) 2011/11/08 20:43:05 (permalink)
    Yes... always use the external card/interface. 

    I never work without it either.


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