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problems with mixer? - fixed...thanks!
OK, I finally broke down and bought real monitors (speakers) for my almost-real studio. Got the cables today. Problem is, the left one is 1000X louder than the right one. If I switch the cables, that effect also switches. Now I notice that I can only hear in the left side of my headphones too. So it can't be just the new monitors, can it? What would be wrong with the mixer? Or anything else?
post edited by Janet - 2011/08/22 23:17:24
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 22:47:35
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What's the mixer make and model, Janet?
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 22:49:00
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Sorry...Xenyx 802. (the one that Bob talked about a lot in the MC forum)
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 22:50:30
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Hi Janet, It sounds like you have connected your new monitors and new monitor cables to your mixer. The left connection from the mixer to monitor is much louder than the right connection. I'm guessing what is happening here is that you are just getting some bleed through to the right side which seems to be confirmed by the fact that you are getting the same results from your headphones. When you switched the cables, I am assuming that the Left Monitor is now the loud one, which would rule out one of the monitors or cables being bad. Did both channels work fine in your headphones prior to adding the monitors? The problem could be with your inputs. Check to make sure you have good L and R inputs. Check to make sure you are monitoring in stereo or you have signals panned to both L and R.
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 22:51:11
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If you have it set up like this ... sound coming out of your PC through an audio cable in to your mixer, then it is either the balance control in your PC is panned to one side, or more than likely, the cable coming from your PC to your mixer is not plugged in tight on the PC and/or mixer side. The cable could also be broken, or the jacks the cable plugs in to is broken. If there is a jack broken, it's usually the tiny 1/8" one in the back of your PC. It could be your mixer has a bad channel but that's very rare. All of what I typed above depends on what sound card you are using though. We'll probably need a few more specs to narrow it down.
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 22:56:52
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 23:11:18
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Thank you, Jim. Those ideas helped! Thank you too, Bub. I unplugged and plugged in everything and now the right one works! (it took a couple times though). Now when I press 'cd/tape to mix' on the mixer I get a terrible buzz. That also happened when I pulled that cable out of the sound card and pushed it back in. In the meantime, it works now, but that cable buzzing so loudly concerns me. Would that mean the sound card is going bad or the cable or something? Thanks, you guys! :)
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 23:21:37
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It's the cable or the jack that the cable plugs in to. Is it one of these?
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 23:24:26
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/22 23:35:27
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XLR. Hmm. Ooh. That's not good. You really gotta try to kill one of those cables. It could be a few things causing the buzz. I'm still leaning toward the cable that connects your PC to your Mixer though. I would disconnect the mixer from the PC on the mixer end of the cable and see if you still hear the buzz. If it goes away then you know it's the cable between the mixer and the PC or something inside your PC which isn't good.
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/23 09:16:50
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I'm going to do some testing with it when I get a chance, and switch it out with another one, etc...and label things better so these tests don't take as long next time. :)
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/23 18:11:38
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Did I say XLR cable? Sorry...it's a 1/4", but on the mixer side, it connects to an RCA adapter. Anyway, I just tried another cable and it does the same thing. (major buzz when I activate the cd/tape to mix button.) Otherwise, everything's working fine. What does that button do? And in the meantime, does that mean my soundcard is going bad? It's only a couple years old (I think.)
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/23 20:03:31
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The CD/TAPE TO MIX button routes the CD Input(in this case your sound card output) to the main input bus. You are creating a direct feedback loop. Do not use this button. Connect your monitors to CTRL ROOM OUT, and engage CD/TAPE TO CTRL. This will keep the sound card output isolated from the input side. Here's the familiar picture:
post edited by RobertB - 2011/08/23 20:06:04
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/23 21:19:10
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Yes, that's the familiar picture. Thanks. :) I do have them connected that way. So I guess I just don't need to engage that other button. I suppose I never had that effect before because no monitors were hooked up. OK, now to listen to some good CD's to hear what music's SUPPOSED to sound like and see if I can get my mixes anywhere near that. :) Thanks again. I almost emailed you, cause I knew you know what I have (and how little I know!), but I figured you'd see this when you got a chance. :)
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/23 22:30:43
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I use a similar 502 mixer but only use it to route into my soundcard. I'm just wondering here, is there a reason that the soundcard output needs to be going back to the mixer and out again at all? Wouldn't it be better just going straight to the monitors?
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/23 23:38:52
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That's a good question, Jonbouy. For the most part, it's a matter of convenience. If your monitors are where they are supposed to be, they are just out of reach, and it's nice to have that master volume control on the desk. In my case, it's necessity,as my power amp has separate controls for left and right outs (I have passive monitors). I needed a master volume control on the desk, as it's just not practical to mess with the amp. There are two significant differences between the otherwise similar 502 and 802. The line level CTRL ROOM OUT, and phantom power, present on the 802, but not the 502. With the 502, going directly from the sound card to the monitors is more realistic, and may be your only option. With the 802, having that volume control front and center is a big plus.
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Re:problems with mixer?
2011/08/24 00:04:15
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RobertB The line level CTRL ROOM OUT, and phantom power, present on the 802, but not the 502. With the 502, going directly from the sound card to the monitors is more realistic, and may be your only option. With the 802, having that volume control front and center is a big plus. Cheers Robert Yes, I thought you must have had a reason to do it that way. My box is near enough my monitors not to worry about it and I can mix the inputs via the E-Mu's patchmix on-board anyway that's the only reason it looked alien to me. On the 502 the phantom power is there but it's hard wired on and the line outs on it just switch between the main mix and headphone out.
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