quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate?

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2011/10/15 08:53:00 (permalink)

quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate?

Anyone have any tips to convert 32bit WAV files to 24 or 16 bit in sonar? I can do it externally using other software but i was hoping there is a quicker way using sonar? I guess i can bounce to another track and set the bit-depth but there is 8 songs in one track and that's a large file when there are a dozen tracks. Why you ask?- the reason is that i have been given a project to mix consisting of 32 bit WAV files but a plugin i wish to use can only deal with 24 or 16 bit files. i dont recall ever seeing a "convert bit depth" function in sonar. Though please tell me if i've been dumb and missed it. thanks

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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/15 11:41:32 (permalink)
    highlight (or solo) the wav. click file->export file. then choose 16bit or 24bit from the drop down menu.
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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/15 11:53:12 (permalink)
    I'd be curious to know what dinosaur plugin cannot deal with 32-bit data. Name names, Steve!


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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/15 12:41:06 (permalink)
    You can either do the export/ import or tool copy the track into a program like Wave lab. But it would seem it would be such a rare reason for anyone to change there mind about bit depth mid project that the feature is missing.

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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/15 13:47:24 (permalink)
    It's not clear to me why you would need to do this.

    Sonar does everything internally using either 32bits or 64bits. When a wave file is brought into Sonar, it is converted to 32bits (or 64bits). The interace between plugins and Sonar uses 32bits. So once you bring wave files into Sonar, it doesn't matter what the bit depth of the original files were.

    Are you talking about a separate application instead of a plugin?

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    Re:quickest way to convert 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/15 15:00:38 (permalink)
    Why you ask?- the reason is that i have been given a project to mix consisting of 32 bit WAV files but a plugin i wish to use can only deal with 24 or 16 bit files.

    I'm guessing its not your plugins, as 32bit is a floating point and not a fixed point. So your plugins will have no problem, because the fixed point bit depth is still 24.
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    Re:quickest way to convert 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/16 04:46:41 (permalink)
    Its for use with a "free" drum replacer/trigger VST plugin (yep, i know, i'm a cheapskate) http://www.boxsounds.com/replacer_info.html it only deals with upto 24bit files. I could export/bounce down to a new WAV file and re-import but as each track contains the parts for 8 songs and there are many tracks it seemed a bit of a long-winded method of doing it. If there is no alternative i will just have to set aside time to do it. I wonder if i located the source files in my "audio" folder and done a batch conversion (using other software) of all the files if Sonar would recognise the converted data/WAV files and deal with them ok?

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    Re:quickest way to convert 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/16 12:20:38 (permalink)
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    Its for use with a "free" drum replacer/trigger VST plugin (yep, i know, i'm a cheapskate) http://www.boxsounds.com/replacer_info.html it only deals with upto 24bit files. I could export/bounce down to a new WAV file and re-import but as each track contains the parts for 8 songs and there are many tracks it seemed a bit of a long-winded method of doing it. If there is no alternative i will just have to set aside time to do it. I wonder if i located the source files in my "audio" folder and done a batch conversion (using other software) of all the files if Sonar would recognise the converted data/WAV files and deal with them ok?
    As I said, VST communicates with Sonar using 32bits.

    I believe that when the replacer plugin says it only deals with 24bit files, it means for the replacement samples, not the original audio. Are you talking about converting drum samples to 24bits to use with this or the original audio tracks?

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    Re:quickest way to convert 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/16 12:49:49 (permalink)
    Have you tried using it and it doesn't work??? or?

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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/17 02:40:35 (permalink)
    amazing what a search engine can do-can`t vouch for it`s accuracy though

    "have hundreds of instrument sounds in a 32bit WAV format.. Is there a way to convert them into 24 but or 16 but WAV in a batch manner? I would appreciate the suggestion
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    any ideas guys?

    Use "sox"

    Make a simple bash script and put sox inside a foreach loop.
    It will convert as many files as you might have that way.

    http://sox.sourceforge.net/

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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/17 02:47:49 (permalink)
    oops-just re-read your post and you were asking if it could be done in sonar-sorry-too eager to reply
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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/17 11:06:49 (permalink)
    Just a word of caution, Don't post solution you have never actually proofed yourself. It can spread bad ideas over the net. That above solution looks like it was from DOS or something anyways. True a search engine may come forth with a solution but they also dig up a lot of old old posts from sketchy sources.

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    Re:quickest way to convet 32bit WAVs to lower bitrate? 2011/10/17 16:24:16 (permalink)
    seems the VST can not "read" above a 24bit file. Not sure about the limits of the trigger/playback file. With a 32 bit source file the VST does not respond. the controls fail to work as if the plugin is corrupt or offline. Took a little while to realise this, but when i used a 24 or 16 bit "source" file the VST controls work ok. May be that i need to take the long voyage to get where i need to be. I can do it but like most of us, if there's a quicker way to be had, it makes sense. thanks for the comments so far everyone

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