"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) MIX #3 On 5-19-13

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"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) MIX #3 On 5-19-13

"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal)
 
Hi, everybody,

Here's a test mix for a new Modern Rock/Metal song called "Frenzy".

If you can spare a few minutes, please check it out for me. As always, any and all helpful comments, suggestions, constructive criticism, input and ideas are welcome, and also greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance for any observations, suggestions, comments and ideas, you guys are the best!
Bob
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NOTE:  Remix Uploaded 5/17/13 after finally getting to get back in the studio!  Thanks to everyone for your input, advice and ideas!
 
For the remix I swept out a lot of mud from the rhythm guitars, went back to my original bass guitar EQ setup from my first CD, ramped up the drone guitar intro with a short fade in, took Paulo's suggestion about introducing a short feedback type blast over the intro, and cleaned up a couple of the drum fills.  I'm hoping the overall volume levels are okay, and that it translates a bit better on most systems.  Let me know what you think.
 
NOTE: JUST UPLOADED NEW MIX #3 UPLOADED 5-19-13
 
LOL, I wasn't happy with Mix #2 after checking it on a few different systems/devices, so, I went back to the drawing board and beefed up the drums and bass, re-eqed the rhythm guitars, adjusted bus levels, and backed off the mastering limiter a wee bit.  I think it seems to translate better now, and I'm hoping the overall levels seem okay.
 
YIKES!!!  It always sucks trying to get your "ears" back in shape after being away from the recording/mixing process for a couple of months!
 
Thanks for all your input and observations!
Bob
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"Frenzy"

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/10 22:38:27 (permalink)
    When it kicked in, it felt a little bottom heavy/muddy to me? But I'm listening on ear buds (but that's how I usually listen?)

    It's the guitars that come in from the beginning they seem to be in the way of the bass? I may HPF them a bit more. 

    I like the song, the vox sit right. Push the drums... But they may be getting covered by those droning guitars from the beginning?  

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/10 23:08:53 (permalink)
    I agree with Robby. The rest of the mix is good, but those guitars have some odd distortion that is... not harsh, or piercing... but... fatiguing. Resonates wrong in the ear. It sounds like the distortion is buried in the harmonics if that makes any sense to you. I am not sure how you should clean it up, as I am not sure how you arrived at that tone. Other than that the song is very good, and I liked the hint of synth in the background.

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/11 01:20:50 (permalink)
    Well, it sure was a wild ride  for me. I think the vocals need to come up some and maybe do a bit more track panning, a little left and a little right, sounds to much in the middle. You know the sound your looking for, but I don't listen much to metal music, I'm kind of Christian Rock and film score. But, you can work on clearing up the song a bit, I know you have it in you. Good song though, the lyrics tell it all.

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/11 09:44:44 (permalink)
    Loud crisp mix... sounds well balanced to me... Vox sits nicely in the upper mids... I don't hear any problems at all...
    Very cool tune, huge sound... Great work Bob... 
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/11 17:52:32 (permalink)
    I agree with Frank on this.  This mix is not the norm for this type of music, which is why it appeals to me.  I think that you're thinking outside of the box, here, and that is what may throw one off.  The texture is chunky, and the  drums really drive this song.  I like your vision for this song.

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 00:12:41 (permalink)
    Oh, no. What I hear is not a style choice... it is distortion on the drone. It is not the drone itself that is the problem. Your rig might not be picking it up.

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 09:49:23 (permalink)
     Not sure if this is a new remix, but this sounds super here. Instruments sound huge and the vocal treatment has really taken this one to the next level. I think this is my favorite from you. Awesome work Bob

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 14:52:54 (permalink)
    Nice job Bob sounds OK here.

    Thanks for sharing your talent.

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 15:10:27 (permalink)
    Bob,
     
    I like the power of the track...mix is good, etc..   Guitar playing is outstanding as are the vocals.   I am a fan of your music.   What I find missing is a strong melody hook.   I think a lot of guitar players tend to put more focus on the tracks, guitar hooks, guitar tone, solos, etc,,, and not so much the melody.    I hope this is a fair observation, feel free to tell me I am full of sh#$ if you disagree.    If you look at a lot of the rockers or metal groups that do Unplugged Sessions their songs, that were popular, are always able to stand on their own with a few acoustic guitars, bass and some percussion.   If your melody works with an acoustic guitar or piano it will really work with your full Oister treatment.  As an example, your song Broken Angel was super melodic and I can immediately recognize it.   Great hook, very memorable.   While I like Frenzy from a pure listening enjoyment perspective, I don't find the melody super memorable.   The guitar solo is superb, wouldn't change it a bit....  I hope there is some useful info in this bit of rambling observation.
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 19:57:59 (permalink)
    I am frenzied...yes! Nice track Bob!

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 20:06:28 (permalink)
    Yes, frienzied ! Really heavy and great track Bob. On my studio monitors, a very deep bass drone even at low volume. I imagine this would sound like real power at high volume but the missus is asleep elsewhere in the house right now and I dare not risk it ! Very powerful arrangement, can hear all the lyrics and super guitar....

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 20:50:14 (permalink)
    Sounded good to me.  Another fine rocker, Bob!!

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/12 21:33:44 (permalink)
    I love it! Sounds great on real speakers. 

    Who ever heard of mixing music with ear buds anyway?!! 

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/13 17:50:51 (permalink)
    The Band19:
     
     
    Hey Robaaaaaaaaay!
     
    How's it going, bud?  Hope you having a great weekend!
     
    Thanks for checking it put and for your good input and observations!  I'm going to try your suggestion about sliding the HPF up a little bit on the drone guitar when I get to the remix in a few days.
     
    Thanks again, and have a good one!
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    foxwolfen:
     
     
     
    Hey, Shad,
     
    Many thanks for giving this a listen and for your input and observations, and kind words!
     
    Yes, Sir, I was trying something a little different, and I'm going to try a little EQ and compression surgery on the drone guitar to clean things up a bit.
     
    Thanks for all your very good input and support here on the forum, and have a great weekend!
    Bob
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/13 18:15:44 (permalink)
    Nice collection of guitar tones.  I really like how the  heavy CHUG-A-CHUG guitar filled the low end of the mix and stayed throughout the song.  It sounded and was played much like a percussion instrument, very cool.
    I like the mix and the guitars sound great on my end.  The performance of the drums are some of your best IMO.  But the one nit I'm hearing is the EQing of the drums.  They are coming across THIN sounding compared to your guitars.  I'm getting enough high end but it could use a smidge more low/mid, IMO. Maybe its just me and my ears.  A killer performance/tune.  As always, you never let me down.  KUDOS my friend!


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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/13 18:23:38 (permalink)
    love the guitar tone. heavy as! drums sound better Bob, still a little too bright compared to the rest of the mix but not overly so. however they still need a bit better programming to avoid boredom.
     this of course has your sig sound, but is a bit more uptempo, great tune. the solo sounded like an outtake from Powerslave...which is definitely a compliment!

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/13 18:40:14 (permalink)
    I like the pounding guitars!! This is my kind of music. Great job!

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/16 16:04:30 (permalink)
    Well up to your very high standard Bob and shows what a great guitarist you are.

    The mix sounds fine on my speakers apart from some slight booming in the low end that sometimes buried the other sounds slightly. Might be my speakers though.

    Nice work Bob.
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/16 18:39:10 (permalink)
    the guitarplayer:
     
     
    Hi, John,
     
     
    Thank you very much for giving the song a listen, and for your good input and very kind words!
     
    Your recent song posts are fantastic, I particularly enjoyed "Linda Serenade", and I'll bet your wife did, too!  Very nice!
     
    Thanks again and best wishes!
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    Hey, Frank,
     
     
    How are you, buddy?  Hope you're doing great!
     
    Many thanks for the listen and your input and encouraging comments!  Greatly appreciated, my friend, especially coming from a fantastic musician and producer like you.
     
    Thanks so much for your input and support!
    Bob
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    lynn:
     
     
    Hi, Lynn,
     
     
    Thanks so much, buddy for your very good observations and kind comments!
     
    Yes, Sir, I made a conscious choice on this one to try to achieve a particular driving guitar sound using the drone guitar for almost a percussive effect.  I wanted the chug guitar to augment the drums and keep the song moving along even when the drums stopped.  Thanks for picking up on what I was going after!
     
    I really appreciate your input, ideas and support on all of my posts, and it really means a lot to me!
     
    Best wishes, Lynn!
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/18 04:22:06 (permalink)
    foxwolfen:
     
     
    Hey, Shad,
     
    Yes, it's just high gain guitar distortion EQed and panned differently for the effect I mentioned above, and no synths or keys were used on this one, just guitars, bass and drums.
     
    Thanks again for you input and comments, have a good one, buddy!
    Bob
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    Hi, Grant,
     
     
    Thanks, brother, I really appreciate you giving this a listen and your kind words of encouragement!
     
    Nope, this is still the original mix, I'm hoping to finally get a little time over the weekend to make some minor changes and adjustments.  I'm thinking a touch of EQ and leveling will do the trick with a little luck.
     
    Your last two cover posts of ZZ Top and Skynyrd were absolutely fantastic, great stuff!
     
    Thanks for your good input and support, greatly appreciated, my friend!
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    Hey Wookster, how's it going my friend?  Hope your having a great week!
     
    Thanks very much for giving this a listen and your very kind words!
     
    I truly appreciate your input, support and friendship, it means a great deal to me.
     
    Best wishes!
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/18 08:56:15 (permalink)
    Bob,
      Excellent sound on this one.  I didn't hear anything out of order with it.  The drums on this one are some of your best work yet, really driving and tight.  Of course as usual I dig the killer guitar and vocals.  Great work, cool tune!
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/18 19:25:24 (permalink)
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    Hey, Mark,
     
    How's it going, buddy?  Hoping you're doing great!
     
    Thanks very much for checking out "Frenzy" for me, and for your good input, observations, and kind words!
     
    Yes, Sir, I completely agree with you on the "acoustic guitar/melody test" for about 80% of songs, but there are many strictly "guitar riff based" major hits that would never pass that test.  Just think how the vocal melodies for Zep's "Whole Lotta Love", "Black Dog", or Priest's "Another Thing Comin', Metalica's "Enter Sandman" or Disturbed's "Down With The Sickness" would sound sung over only a strummed acoustic guitar.  LOL, Yuck!   Yet, they were all major radio hits.
     
    Either way, I absolutely do agree with you about this one not having a strong vocal melody line, but it was basically slapped together in less than two hours after a very frustrating week of extremely bad news on multiple fronts, and I was just recording spontaneously to let out some anger.
     
    Thanks again, Mark,  I consider you one of the top musician's/producers on the forum, and greatly appreciate your input, advice and friendship, and value your opinion highly!
     
    Best wishes,
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    Hey, Shawn,
     
     
    Thanks so much, buddy!  I really appreciate you giving it a listen and your very kind words.
     
    Have a good one, Shawn!
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    Hi, Garry,
     
     
    Thank you, Sir, I truly appreciate you checking the song out and your very encouraging comments!
     
    I'm hoping to make a few EQ and panning adjustments and posting the remix in a couple of days.  Hopefully that will tame the low end on the bass and drone guitar.
     
    By the way your new post "Breaking Through" is excellent, I love the strong Floyd vibe it has.  Really nice work!
     
    Thanks again, Garry, I'm grateful that you like the song!
     
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/18 20:10:56 (permalink)
    This is AWESOME BOB!! I must ask, I can't remember, What software are you using to record with, or are you using software to record with? Just wondering. 

    This sounds great!! 

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/18 21:39:22 (permalink)
    Smokin' Bob - fantastic.

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/19 10:29:20 (permalink)
    I think is it great!  The mix and vocals sounds nice and clean.  The guitar solo is smoking hot!  

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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/19 12:29:56 (permalink)


    bob
    alright, some chugga chugga....it's nice and meaty, big and bouncy....
    kinda sets the mood right off the bat!
    heheh

    bob, i think you have a buildup between the bass and guitar parts that is creating that 'drone' effect others have mentioned..

    i don't mind it, it actually works as it's own effect..


    to me, it almost gives it a big stadium feel, that's how the low end translates in the giant rooms...
    it's not mush, which is good....

    dig the performances tho, great solo....

    i like the vocal melody, i think it's plenty strong enough to carry the song, it's surely a stronger melody hook than a lot of other songs i've heard in this genre.....


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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/19 17:34:52 (permalink)
    Hey Bob.  On the road here, so I'm stuck with ear plugs and a laptop, but, FWIW, the mix sounded good on that equipment.  As for the tune, I think it's a beaut... catchy melody, great feel... had me going the whole way.  As for the performance: what can I say... patented Bob Oister: great riffage, perfect tight harmonies... all the stuff that makes me jealous 
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/20 18:34:35 (permalink)
    evadianepug:
     
     
    Hey, Warren,
     
    How's it going, buddy?  Hope you're having a great weekend!
     
    Thanks so much for taking time to check this out for me, and for your very kind words.  Your input and support is greatly appreciated, my friend!
     
    Have a good one!
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    Scottytunes:
     
     
    Hey Scotty,
     
    Thank you, Sir,  I really appreciate you giving this a listen, and your very good input and encouraging comment!
     
    I always look forward to and really appreciate your ideas, advice and observations, and value your friendship highly!
     
    Thanks again, and have a great weekend!
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    drumstixkev:
     
     
     
    Hey, Kev,
     
    How are you, brother?  Hope you're doing great!
     
    Thank you very much for giving this a listen and for your valuable input and very kind words!
     
    I'm definitely going to take your advice (and Mark's), and beef up the low end on the drums a little bit for the remix in the next day or two.  Between that and a little EQ surgery on the guitars and bass, hopefully it will get things in order!
     
    Many thanks again, Kev, and I'm very grateful for your good observations, support and friendship!
     
    Have a great weekend, buddy!
    Bob
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    Bob Oister
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    Re:"Frenzy" (Modern Rock/Metal) 2013/04/21 17:37:48 (permalink)
    mgh:
     
     
     
    Hey, Mark,
     
    Thanks, brother, I really appreciate your good input, observations, and encouraging comments!
     
    I'm hoping to perform a bit of EQ surgery on the remix, and also beef up the low end of drums a touch.
     
    Nice job on your new death metal post, cool stuff!
     
    Thanks again, as always, I'm grateful for your input and support.
     
    Best wishes!
    Bob
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    dudeivy:
     
     
     
    Hey, Dude,
     
     
    Thanks, man, I really appreciate you taking time to check out the song, and also your very kind words!
     
    Your input and comments are truly appreciated, and I'm very grateful that you like the song.
     
    Have a good one, buddy!
    Bob
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    blipp:
     
     
     
    Hey, John,
     
     
    Thank you kindly, Sir for giving this song a listen, and also for you good input and observations, and kind words!
     
    I'm hoping to fix up the boominess that you mentioned on the remix within the next day or two.  I was experimenting with a major change to my usual bass guitar EQ, and then that ended up leading to some tweaking and changing of the EQ on the rhythm guitars and drum bus, so things sort of snowballed a bit, LOL.   I think a little" backwards" fine tuning may be in order for this one.
     
    Thanks again, my friend, I always appreciate your good ears, and value your input highly.
     
    Best wishes!
    Bob
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