Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
Here's my latest "Hold your Fire". This started as a keyboard riff. I appreciate all of your thoughts. Hold Your Fire
post edited by Tap - 2011/06/08 08:16:53
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
BretB
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 508
- Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
- Location: Oklahoma
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/05 16:10:21
(permalink)
Like the song, not the siren. Maybe if you just used it at the begining only to set the stage. The rest has a nice feel to it.
Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits "Music is what feelings sound like" https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
|
Janet
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8094
- Joined: 2010/01/02 19:04:11
- Location: Missouri
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/05 22:27:05
(permalink)
Having listened to a few songs today with the drums in your face, I felt like I'd like to hear your drums louder. Pretty cool vibe going on here.
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/06 06:43:27
(permalink)
( A remix has been posted! ) Bret, Thanks for the listen and the input. I tamed the Siren so it's only in the beginning and a reprise at the end. Yeah, it's much better this way! Janet - Sorry the drums weren't in your face, I gave them a bit more punch now.
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
vechung
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
- Total Posts : 818
- Joined: 2008/02/05 19:51:39
- Location: Austin, TX
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/06 10:18:31
(permalink)
Nice rhythym beat there! However, the solo instruments are a bit soft, is that intentional? Sometimes it is ok. There is not a rule that they need to dominate if the rhythym is what you want to get across. Around 1:29 there seems a sour note on the guitar. Nice relaxing track.
|
No How
Max Output Level: -23.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5180
- Joined: 2006/05/02 11:56:01
- Location: the boogie-woogie Isles
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/06 10:29:23
(permalink)
Breezy little tune. Get's the kinks out for sure. Nice playing. I think the hi hat needs a little more hi end and maybe a tiny bit more bass but i'm not sure about how you mix cool jazz. Very nice!
s o n g s – Beauty lodged in a bad hotel has no value. Raymond Lull
|
morenoise
Max Output Level: -69 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1074
- Joined: 2010/05/02 09:48:12
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/06 11:13:31
(permalink)
Hi James, nice tune but turn up the guitar. Greetings, Rik
|
rockinrobby
Max Output Level: -65 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1265
- Joined: 2010/06/17 19:28:24
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/06 11:52:10
(permalink)
That electric guitar needs to come UP, it's buried in the mix. There are a few notes being played that are not in the scale. The hat feels panned a bit too hard left, the drums and that rhythm piano are dominating the mix, and the hat is dominating the drums. Sorry to be critical, and please remember, anything I say may be, and probably is WRONG! :-)
post edited by rockinrobby - 2011/06/06 11:55:54
|
jsaras
Max Output Level: -49 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2642
- Joined: 2003/12/07 10:40:00
- Location: Pasadena, CA-The Center of the Universe!
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune
2011/06/06 16:48:06
(permalink)
This mix extremely out of balance by any definition. What are you using as a monitoring system? Headphones? Something's not quite right.
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 08:56:50
(permalink)
( *** Another Remix has been posted! *** ) Thanks Vicente for the listen, I brought up the guitars. I was prep'ing it for vocals, but .... Rick, I think I added a little more punch on the bass and drums, Thanks for the ears. Rik, yeah I put the guitar up front now! Robbie, thanks for your inputs, I started the mix over quite a bit, hopefully this is better. Jsaras I really appreciate your inputs as well. I think the problem was too much going into a stereo field widner, which was accidentally on in the master. I use this to hear the levels of instruments to blend them in, but rarely master with it.
post edited by Tap - 2011/06/07 09:08:42
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
Scottytunes
Max Output Level: -18.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5695
- Joined: 2009/01/09 23:48:53
- Location: Vermont
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 12:30:34
(permalink)
|
philz
Max Output Level: -50.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2462
- Joined: 2004/04/11 13:50:46
- Location: Shrewsbury, PA, USA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 15:21:13
(permalink)
Enjoyable listen for me. Personally (caveat- could just be a taste thing here), I would have liked to have heard a bit more of the guitar, and would have preferred a tone more in the Gibson L5 or ES area, but it was still a good tune. Cool piano vibe.
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 18:02:54
(permalink)
Vicente thanks for the input on what appears to be a sour note. I originally intended to add some dissonance in there but I guess it was a bit too much. I added a fix to lower it's impact. Robbie There are more cases of intentional dissonance towards the end which are much more subtle, in these cases coming from different instruments. Yeah I took some artistic liberties here, primarily for the purpose of creating the effect of stressful uneasiness. Like being stared down by Clint Eastwood with a loaded 44 ("I know what your thinking, he fired six shots?") Scotty as always thanks for the listen and comments. Phil my original plan was to add vocals so I dummied down the bite of the guitar. It was actually intended to be kind of like an early Santana or Peter Green style, thus I really wanted a mellower sounding instrument, but I decided to put the lead guitar out front. I recorded it with a tube preamp but it was much more subtle and lacked the bite needed to put it out front. I tried a couple of my more favorite amp sims but they didn't sound right, so I decided to use the Studio Devil British Valve. I couldn't get the exact sound I was looking for but I was able to get the bite I needed. Next time I'll boost up my A/DA MP1 settings.
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
rockinrobby
Max Output Level: -65 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1265
- Joined: 2010/06/17 19:28:24
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 19:48:23
(permalink)
Well I think this is a much better mix, I would EQ that lead guitar with a little mellower tone in the higher registers. And the kick is punching me in the head a bit too hard for my tastes, but it may be perfect for others. The snare seems to have more definition compared to the kick now.
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 20:58:05
(permalink)
Thanks, Robbie.... If I get a chance I'll address the Kick, and may also laydown a much sweeter lead guitar line. Really busy at work, though.
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
drumstixkev
Max Output Level: -48 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2709
- Joined: 2007/09/08 10:41:32
- Location: CHICAGO
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/07 21:06:31
(permalink)
GREAT tune the keyboard effect kind of gives it a STEELY DAN vibe. My only nit about the mix are the drums sound a bit to much in front of all the other instruments. All in all this is really a GREAT tune/performance. KUDOS! Kev
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/08 08:15:57
(permalink)
*** Added a new mellower lead *** Thanks for the listen Kev. If you get a chance, check out the new lead.
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
lhansen
Max Output Level: -27.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4765
- Joined: 2005/09/21 09:02:33
- Location: CT, USA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/10 11:49:19
(permalink)
James..Excellent bass on this! What bass instrument/DI/etc. are you using?? Nice tone on it. I think the lead guitar can come up a bit IMO.....that's always a good comment to hear 'eh?? Good SD type song and I was glad to her you mention the Peter Green influence!!
post edited by lhansen - 2011/06/12 16:59:56
Slow Marching Band Win 7 x64, Sonar X1E x64, Studio One v2, Focusrite Saffire 24 DSP Pro, Genelec 8030a, True Systems P-Solo, Focusrite ISA One, FMR RNP, GAP-73. "Someone to watch over me".
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (REMIXED)
2011/06/10 12:14:06
(permalink)
Thanks for the listen, Larry. The Bass was a great find for me many years ago when my sister moved out with her bass. I needed a bass and searched far and wide for one when I lived in Florida. I happened to come across a really nice Peavy Foundation Bass. I had no intention of getting a Peavy, but after about 2 months of further searching I came back to it. I tried a couple of other ones which were the same model but weren't anywhere near the same. I finally bought it and have been happy with the sound I can get out of it. It's perfect for recording. I believe I just ran it direct to my m-audio firewire interface. I believe I put a very tiny lilght delay on it, eq's it a touch and ran that into a clean setting on the amp-sim that came with cakewalk. I was struggling with the lead sound. I had recorded it originally with a strat through a tube pre to direct in, but it wasn't enough to stand out. My second attempt added a plug-in, but it was too harsh. This version I used the pre-amp again with different settings, but still can't get the right tone. I tried mic'ing it through a small amp and I think for future that's how I may go. BTW - Wish it had come off like Peter Green!
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
pdevillo
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 151
- Joined: 2004/07/30 16:55:28
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/10 12:28:45
(permalink)
I kept on expecting to hear Donald Fagen or Sade to break in with a vocal at some point. Fun tune! Good mix - i liked the slightly rattle-like tone of the lead guitar - like the action is set a little too low - Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More! - Paul
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/10 13:57:27
(permalink)
|
cwestmont
Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
- Total Posts : 379
- Joined: 2007/05/25 13:23:00
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/10 15:58:39
(permalink)
Very worthy of a Steely Dan or Larry Carlton. Yes, the guitar could still be brought forward in the mix and the drums back a bit, but being understated can work as well. (I'm listening on computer speakers so may not be the best judge.)
My music: Hummingbird Cinema (vocal tracks, covers and remixes) Mosaic Manifesto (remixes and instrumentals) "If you can solve your problem, then what is the need of worrying? If you cannot solve it, then what is the use of worrying?"- Shantideva One can acquire everything in solitude - except character. -- Marie Henri Beyle Windows 7 Intel Core i7-4770 3.4 GHz 8 GigaBytes DRAM Sonar X3 Roland QuadCapture
|
dlogan
Max Output Level: -50 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2544
- Joined: 2006/02/17 09:34:16
- Location: Kansas City, Missouri
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/10 16:06:11
(permalink)
This really got my head bobbing! Sounds great!! This would be a great live jam tune.
|
bayoubill
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 10899
- Joined: 2009/04/27 06:11:12
- Location: Shreveport Louisiana
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/10 16:53:21
(permalink)
I think the leads/ solos need to be a lot more out front. Nice groove!
|
Old55
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 19791
- Joined: 2008/09/19 20:10:05
- Location: Californiashire
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/11 03:31:37
(permalink)
Should auld acquaintance be forgot--hey, who the hell are you guys? X2(X3 pending hardware upgrade), Emulator X2, E-mu 1212M, Virtual String Machine
|
notnat
Max Output Level: -23 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5236
- Joined: 2007/09/25 22:21:43
- Location: Southeast
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/11 10:13:57
(permalink)
Tap Jazz... got to luv it... oh yeah... more, more...
|
geeare1
Max Output Level: -56 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1906
- Joined: 2008/06/17 22:57:36
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/12 21:26:42
(permalink)
Hi James, Cool piano foundation and overall groove. Love your guitar playing and tone...could come up a little, though. Very nice.
|
SteveStrummerUK
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 31112
- Joined: 2006/10/28 10:53:48
- Location: Worcester, England.
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/14 17:54:27
(permalink)
Oh yeah - that's so smooooooth James Great playing throughout, especially that kick-ass bass-line - it fits the song perfectly.
|
Mesh
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 27360
- Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08
- Location: Online right here!
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/18 01:47:38
(permalink)
I liked this as well...very cool jazzy/bluesy tune!! Listening through headphones, I thought the guitar could be more upfront.....nicely mixed though!!
Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock FormulaI7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X 250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDDWin 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler HIS IceQ 2GB HD 7870Focusrite Scarlett 2i4The_Forum_Monkeys
|
chasmcg
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
- Total Posts : 642
- Joined: 2011/06/09 13:02:27
- Location: Sulphur Springs, TX
- Status: offline
Re:"Hold Your Fire" - Bluesy sort of Jazz tune (New Lead)
2011/06/18 06:50:03
(permalink)
Sounds great. Nice playing. I was thinking that maybe the guitar could come up a little. Loved the bass.
|