ralphwiggum
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"Maybe Tomorrow"
Sorry I haven't been around for a while. This is a new song I just finished called "Maybe Tomorrow". I like to think of it as jacked-up country music, like Alternative Country or maybe Americana? It's the first song I ever wrote that has a key change in it which I'm very proud of. I played everything except the drums which is Session Drummer and the lead guitar which is my friend Ron who really kicked the song up with his guitar solo. https://soundcloud.com/dedicatedlight/maybe-tomorrow I hope you enjoy it. Don
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ralphwiggum
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/17 17:11:41
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Hey, I was hoping I could get a listen! Let me know what you think. Good or bad. It's the only way I'll get better.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/17 19:59:54
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Don, you've written a song that really takes me back to the days of CCR. It has a feel-good, country rock sound that I haven't heard in a while. It's clever and catchy with a good vocal and nice performances all around. It also takes me back to the days when mixes were made to be played through a mono, AM radio speaker because it has all kinds of top end (like some of my Everly Brothers recordings). It's as if a high pass filter was a little too high in the mix or mastering stage, making me wish for a little warmth. I get those complaints, too. Otherwise, this is a gem waiting for a few tweaks in the EQ department. This song has much potential.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/17 20:30:43
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Very "Dave Edmonds" (which is a good thing.)
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ralphwiggum
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/17 20:56:07
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Thank you for listening guys!! I really appreciate it!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/18 06:36:55
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ralph, enjoyed the listen. A little harmony and guitar fills around the voice would have added to the song (IMO).
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/18 08:43:51
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Hey ralph, welcome back. Yeah, country rock-ish, and a fun tune, I liked it. The modulation toward the end is a nice touch. The panning of the mix was spot on.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/18 13:35:23
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Thank you guys for the listens and comments! Yes Chas, harmonies would sound nice. I am so bad at doing harmonies. I can't wrap my head around it. I can do it on some songs but on other songs it's really hard for me. I usually end up throwing the headphones in the air in disgust. Lol. Scott, you know what's funny. That modulation at the end was purely for convenience sake. But it worked! When I put in the key change I had to wipe the end of the song and do it over in the higher key. Then when my friend Ron played his guitar solo I had him record the little riffs in the new key. He used his amp settings which had the chorus on it. Instead of re-recording the riffs I just used the ones Ron recorded. It actually worked pretty good I think. Lol. I am a lazy guy sometimes. Thanks again guys!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/18 17:06:01
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it may sound country-esque to you, I get some Oasis feeling from this. Very nice song, catchy and meldodic.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/19 02:13:53
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I like a song with a message, great words. I did also enjoy the key change, very hard thing to make work but I think it fitted just right.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/19 12:02:58
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Thank you for checking it out! Thomas, I never thought of the Oasis thing until you mentioned it! You are so right! I could hear Liam Gallagher sneering through the whole song. Lol. I also love Oasis. I actually did a cover of "Some Might Say" that I should post here. Thanks!! Wayne, Thanks very much! I orignally had the key change further in the song but that made it too long because I wanted to keep this song under 4:00. So I shortened it and I liked it a lot better but once again I have to thank my friend Ron for his guitar solo because he really nailed it and jacked up the key change nicely. Thanks a lot for the listens guys!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/19 15:55:36
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Cute song, but the drums seemed out of place. IOW, not the right style for the song. JMO.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/20 11:21:02
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Cute is not usually a word that's used to describe anything I do but Thanks all the same! Maybe I will experiment with some different drums. Is it the drum pattern or the sound of the drums that you are referring to? I already have the midi patterns laid out. But Session Drummer is very limited in what it can do. Its probably time to spring for some new drum software.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/20 11:23:53
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Ralph, it's the drum pattern, IMO.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/20 14:09:30
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Thanks for clarifying! :)
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/23 11:20:09
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It's hard to find the time comment on other peoples music. There's a lot of great musicians here. I wish I had the time to comment on everything I like. And sometimes there are songs I don't like and would rather not comment than be insincere just to get a return comment. Anyway, I just wanted to bump this song back up one more time because I'm really proud out it. I hope you enjoy it and I'll try to spend more time listening and commenting here. Thanks!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/24 09:12:58
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Good one Don. Agree about the drums, that kick pattern is holding the momentum back instead of letting it groove.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/25 18:50:51
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I tried a few different kick patterns but I still like this one best. This one is a pretty standard 1-2. I'll keep trying.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/25 21:28:28
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Yes, out of tune & creepy was what I was going for. Lol. Edited: Wow, this is wierd, I posted this comment on a different song of mine and it ended up on this song. Strange.
post edited by ralphwiggum - 2014/01/27 10:07:41
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 02:34:25
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Hey, Don. Naturally I had to go looking for recent song posts by those who commented on mine, and yours was the first one I spotted. I like the lyric and vocal on this one. The main suggestion I would make is that you add an Intro; it gives the impression that I often have with my own stuff that "it starts in the middle". Nice work with Session Drummer. I would not have guessed that was SD3 - sits well in the mix with a nice live feel. Cheers, Dave
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 07:53:20
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I like this tune. Nice play on all the cliches we use ....Usually the advice is to not use cliches in song but what you have done is fill the tune with them and that works. In this case, it's the "over the top" use of them that makes the song what it is. Side note: I'm reading/studying a book on lyric writing, and just finished the chapter on cliches in song. they had several pages of them. As I read through the list I was thinking, "wow, I could write a song just stringing these suckers together"..... The music at the start hit me as very Neil Youngish in nature... the distorted loose sounding guitar. The guitar solo is kinda harsh with lots of high overtones. Interesting way to modulate the song.... it works. I too get the feeling that the drums don't fit the groove exactly like they should. I was also going to comment on a few other things ....."maybe tomorrow but not today"... Hey, it's a good song and I like it.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 10:42:54
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Thanks again for listening to my song!! I'm not usually thrilled with the results of my projects. But this particular song, well I'm pretty proud of it. It even has a key change which is something I've never done before. So I appreciate the compliments and the critiques as well. brundlefly The main suggestion I would make is that you add an Intro; it gives the impression that I often have with my own stuff that "it starts in the middle". Dave, you are absolutely right!! Many of my songs start too abruptly. An intro is an interesting thought. I've never really done too many of those. Usually if I feel that it doesn't start right I'll add a count in or something. Thank you for the suggestion. You might not believe this but it's actually SD2. Lol. Herb, as always your comments are greatly appreciated. It's funny but a lot of my songs begin with a phrase or cliche' or something funny or profound that I've read or heard and then I write the song around that idea. But you are right, this song is way over the top in that respect. I was really going for the play on words here and there are so many "maybe's" in the world these days. It's so hard to get a straightforward answer on anything. Everything is "maybe". It sounds like an interesting book you're reading. What's the title? Yes, Neil Young is a major influence. Chaos is an environment that I thrive in. Lol. If everything is loud and garish it's easy to forgive any mistakes that might happen. In fact, mistakes can actually enhance a chaotic song. I love Oasis for that reason as well. And Neil pretty much invented Americana, even though he's Canadian. Hahaha. But he borders on the fringe of country which is something I like. You are so right about the lead guitar too. But I had to let him have his way. He uses way to many effects all the time but it was a compromise because he's such a good player. I would have used a nice dry distorted amp sim but he wanted to use the take that we did from miking his amp. And the drums are something I'm going to explore as well. I think the drums (as many have said) could move the song better. But I'm funny, I always move right on to the next project. At some point I have to say "this is finished". Otherwise I would continue to work on it forever. But I will explore it. Thank you so much for you sincere comments guys!!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 11:08:46
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I can't get this song out of my head.................. So, I guess that's a good thing (for you)..
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 11:15:30
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Hahaha. That is very funny Tim. Yes, it is better that you have the song stuck in your head because I have heard this song way too many times. Lol. But truthfully, this song doesn't hold a candle to your song "Dance Around It". I am honored to get such a nice compliment from someone as talented as yourself.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 11:29:55
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ralphwiggum Herb, as always your comments are greatly appreciated. It's funny but a lot of my songs begin with a phrase or cliche' or something funny or profound that I've read or heard and then I write the song around that idea. But you are right, this song is way over the top in that respect. I was really going for the play on words here and there are so many "maybe's" in the world these days. It's so hard to get a straightforward answer on anything. Everything is "maybe". It sounds like an interesting book you're reading. What's the title? Yes, Neil Young is a major influence. Chaos is an environment that I thrive in. Lol. If everything is loud and garish it's easy to forgive any mistakes that might happen. In fact, mistakes can actually enhance a chaotic song. I love Oasis for that reason as well. And Neil pretty much invented Americana, even though he's Canadian. Hahaha. But he borders on the fringe of country which is something I like. You are so right about the lead guitar too. But I had to let him have his way. He uses way to many effects all the time but it was a compromise because he's such a good player. I would have used a nice dry distorted amp sim but he wanted to use the take that we did from miking his amp. And the drums are something I'm going to explore as well. I think the drums (as many have said) could move the song better. But I'm funny, I always move right on to the next project. At some point I have to say "this is finished". Otherwise I would continue to work on it forever. But I will explore it.
Maybe you should title the song "Maybe"..... the book: http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Better-Lyrics-Pat-Pattison/dp/1582975779/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1390840027&sr=1-2&keywords=pattison+pat I hear you on the "never finished" aspect to songs.... occasionally I will go back to a song that I recorded years back and redo it again..... using the knowledge I have gained in the meantime.... and generally, it sounds so much better the second or third, or fourth time around.
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 11:36:31
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"Maybe" I'll fix the drums. Lol. That is very true Herb. Sometimes it's good to let something sit for a while. Especially after having listened to it ad infinitum for the last months. But I am not discounting the good advice that everyone has given me. I think the drums could be much better. But I'm working on a new song now. Hahaha. Thanks for the book title Herb. Have a great day!!!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 12:15:41
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Yes, the drum pattern is not working in this that great but a nice song even so. Lynn may have said it best. Nice start to something even better. Believe me my originals need lots of work as well, having made some of the same mistakes. ice song you have going, keep at it. Peace and Blessings, John
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 14:30:47
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Hi Don. Country isn't usually my main cuppa but I liked this. I liked the raw feeling in the music.I think the slightly dirty electric fits well but then I lean a little in in that direction.Made me feel like I was in a bar somewhere listening to a country bar band....but if I had been my wife would wonder where I was. Seriously this song is enough to make me listen to jacked up country.Thumbs up!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 16:57:38
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Dirty, raw, jacked-up. That is exactly what I was going for. Thanks Mr. Starise! John, I think we're all amateurs here. But imagine one day when one of us hits it big!!!
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Re: "Maybe Tomorrow"
2014/01/27 19:39:45
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Hey Don, I must have missed this earlier. Based on your comments and replies to others in this thread, I think you achieved what you were trying to achieve. Personally, I like this pretty much like it is. It has a very loose, organic, garage-band feel that feels very "live". The drums may not be perfect, but it's what I'd expect to hear from a garage drummer: very basic beat, no frills. Regards, Dan
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