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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 02:24:40
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Just had a quick listen through the phone speakers and definitely enjoyed it, but I'm sure I missed a bunch of the nuances. I really liked the synth sounds you used and thought the drum part was well done. Liked the snare sound a lot. I'll listen with headphones tomorrow and try to provide some more detailed feedback.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 07:59:00
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Hi Ant This is good... Make it a public track and get it out there
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 09:50:00
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Sounds good here, what did you use to create this?
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 12:37:56
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Thanks everyone. It was my first outing with Omnisphere 2 (the majority of the sounds), and FM8 (the synth doing the arpeggio throughout the song, and also the slightly growly arpeggio pad that comes in around 1:54). Drums are BreakTweaker, Superior 2 for crash cymbals. There's also a fairly subtle use of StutterEdit for one of the leads that come in at 1:20
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 15:31:55
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I really like the composition!
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 16:18:04
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cclarry I really like the composition!
Thanks The whole piece started off as a riff that had been stuck in my head for a really long time. I'd always said to myself that I'd try to make something of it, and recently I finally decided to sit down and do it; I'm glad it came out quite well.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 16:32:55
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Agreeable synth music. I liked the composition and arrangement. Sounds nice
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 17:02:41
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I like it too! The essential goodness is the different elements coming and going, with that unifying plucky synth theme. I can tell that great care was taken in the mixing, with volume automation bringing things to the front. For me, I hear the snare and other drums dip down in volume when other synth parts came to the front - well done there - but for my tastes I disliked the snare sound. It sounds so very canned compared to the rest of the instrumentation. It's a very dated snare sound, which I know fits the genre, but I couldn't help wanting something more varied, more organic, in the snare department. That's just my .02 cents and others will love the snare to death, so there you go! very good piece, and welcome to the forum (if you are in fact new around here) cheers, -Tom
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 18:36:30
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A few other thoughts: Love the sound you bring in around the 1:20 mark. Great drum fills, and sometimes "anti-fills" (where you take something out rather than making it busier). Nice change in chord progression around the 2:00 mark. And finally, cool drum breakdown before bringing the opening progression back in toward the end.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 20:27:33
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emeraldsoul I like it too! The essential goodness is the different elements coming and going, with that unifying plucky synth theme. I can tell that great care was taken in the mixing, with volume automation bringing things to the front.
Thanks Tom. Funny thing is when I finished my initial mix after a long session, I thought it sounded like a huge mud pile. Guess it shows the importance of taking breaks, as coming back to it the next day let me realise ear fatigue had got the better of me. What I ended up posting is a few mixes after, indeed with a few automation envelopes. emeraldsoul For me, I hear the snare and other drums dip down in volume when other synth parts came to the front - well done there - but for my tastes I disliked the snare sound. It sounds so very canned compared to the rest of the instrumentation. It's a very dated snare sound, which I know fits the genre, but I couldn't help wanting something more varied, more organic, in the snare department. That's just my .02 cents and others will love the snare to death, so there you go!
You have a good ear: I can't remember the exact name of the snare sample, but it is an 80s snare (and also an 80s kick) emeraldsoul very good piece, and welcome to the forum (if you are in fact new around here)
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 20:35:44
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mrpippy2 A few other thoughts: Love the sound you bring in around the 1:20 mark. Great drum fills, and sometimes "anti-fills" (where you take something out rather than making it busier). Nice change in chord progression around the 2:00 mark. And finally, cool drum breakdown before bringing the opening progression back in toward the end.
Thanks. I got the idea for the anti-fills when listening to some other music a little while ago: there was the occasional missing snare, and I remember thinking it was quite cool how the absence of a note was actually effective in making a rhythm stand out.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 20:37:35
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Makke Agreeable synth music. I liked the composition and arrangement. Sounds nice
Glad you liked it.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/21 22:16:29
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Omnisphere 2 is probably my fav synth for this genre of music. Arturia is pretty good too. I like the FM8 arpeggion throughout. The chord changes sound a bit like a Brian Eno song (can't remember the name) There's a wonderful flow to this composition. It sounds very good. Only crit I have is the drums seem too prominent in the mix. Good one.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/22 14:38:42
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bjornpdx
Omnisphere 2 is probably my fav synth for this genre of music. Arturia is pretty good too. I like the FM8 arpeggion throughout. The chord changes sound a bit like a Brian Eno song (can't remember the name) There's a wonderful flow to this composition. It sounds very good. Only crit I have is the drums seem too prominent in the mix. Good one.
Hi Bjorn Thanks for listening, and for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed listening.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/22 16:56:00
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Nice job - I liked it, but I think the drums and bass need to be cranked up a bit. Just my opinion.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/23 13:13:32
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Really cool song you've built up here! The drum levels do seem to bounce about and, mostly, it works. However, I think a steadier level on the drums (to match the bass) would be better, IMO. Regards, Dan
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/23 16:07:10
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dougk1824 Nice job - I liked it, but I think the drums and bass need to be cranked up a bit. Just my opinion.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/23 16:14:45
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dcumpian Really cool song you've built up here! The drum levels do seem to bounce about and, mostly, it works. However, I think a steadier level on the drums (to match the bass) would be better, IMO. Regards, Dan
Thanks for the compliment Dan. The drum levels are probably a result of passing the whole mix through slight compression (CA-2A) during the final stages, as I don't change the levels of my Drum and Instruments bus faders. Maybe the answer is a few more automation envelopes?
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/26 01:52:19
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That was really good... Electronic, yeah, but there's a lot of creativity to it, and the way you've arranged the synths is very effective IMO - solid, edgy, and in the pocket.
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Re: "Nightfall" (new electronic/synth tune)
2017/10/28 21:51:17
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stevec That was really good... Electronic, yeah, but there's a lot of creativity to it, and the way you've arranged the synths is very effective IMO - solid, edgy, and in the pocket.
Thanks Steve. Glad you enjoyed the song.
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