"Project was changed" asterisk appears for no reason

I've seen this. I assumed because I changed where the now time cursor is by hitting play, that the project is changed because I am not in the same location. It does seem odd in that I have also not noticed it till expanded.
What say the rest of you?

M@ B


Sorry, I know this has already been discussed because i remember reading a thread about it a while ago, but the search function isn't really useful. Ever since I installed Expanded, the asterisk that denotes a change in the project appears next to the project name although i hadn't done anything since i last saved that would cause it to. It's even already there as soon as any project is first opened. Has anybody found out a cause or is it fixable? Thanks

If you have any controllers sending data, intentional or not, that would cause that, amongst other possibilities.


I've had a bad cable on a foot controller do that, for example.

I see that on some rev8 projects- going directly from save to asterisk. Stopping the audio engine first works here. Don't know why.

M@B yep I've seen this several times. Most of the time, this happens with a 3rd party plugin. Try opening the project and closing a few plugs, resave the project with a new name and then open and see how you fair.

I'm a beta tester for a few software companies. When I run the beta versions of plugs, I sometimes get the * due to a plug that isn't quite talking to Sonar too well. Other times, the software itself may be a beta and that can bring this on. But 9 times out of 10, every time but once, this issue was due to a 3rd party plug.

Some free plugs can cause this, some cracked plugs (no I'm not accsuing you of using cracks lol) can cause this and sometimes I've even seen it with extreme automation going on to where that automation used with a plug can cause it. You don't even have to do anything, right? You open the project and bang...the * appears and you didn't do a thing. You should also notice when a project does this, it takes a little more time to load than those that don't. That's usually the instant give-away for me that something within the project is not right.

Most of my projects, no matter how large they are, open in about 3-6 seconds. Anything longer than that and I know something is hanging somewhere. I'm working on a plug with Acme Bar Gig right now that is giving me this issue. The reason is because it's still a beta and the code is not totally finished. We know what the issue is we just haven't gotten to fixing it yet. But try killing some plugs, resaving and see if that fixes it. At least you'll know what's causing it. Good luck.

-Danny 

I've never seen that one bv...but I wouldn't rule it out. Gremlins are fierce in the audio world. LOL!

-Danny

I bet I know exactly what's causing it. I noticed it too after installing Expanded when using the "playlist" feature. It's the "Softube Saturation Knob" module that was included in "Expanded". If it exists in the Prochannel of any track, it causes this (whether it's on or off). Remove it from the Prochannel and watch the asterisk go away. At least in my case when using the playlist, as soon as each song loaded, the asterisk appeared causing the loaded songs to stack up and bog down the computer in a "live" setting.

Just an fyi, I have SoftTube Saturation inserted on tracks in my normal template (I inserted it and resaved my template after getting Expanded) and I don't have the asterisk problem. But maybe it's interacting with some other plugin in your template, or maybe it's OS specific or something.

Yah for me it's always 3rd party stuff...especially ones with modulations going on. It's no big deal really.

Totally feel your pain M @ B. Yeah it's most likely a plug somewhere. Now on my end, no issues with SofTube at all. It's just one of those things where you'll need to do a process of elimination and just keep a little log file of what you try. Keep me posted on this though because I'd like to try and make it happen on my end to see if I can reproduce it. Good luck. :)

-Danny