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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/25 14:04:29
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Hi BB, nice one, like it, lead acoustic seems to get lost a bit in the mix, imho. Rik
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/25 14:18:42
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Listening to this on my KRK's. I like the wideness of this mix and not sure if this is intended but it reminds of YES in places. I'm not hearing what Rikkie is but that may be a mix translation/listening environment issue.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/25 14:59:01
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I remember this song-I liked it before and I like it now. It's got to be close. Perhaps, juice up the cool but subtle percussion? EQ wise, it is crisp and pops out of the speakers quite well. It shouldn't require much change.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/25 16:07:46
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Rikkie Hi BB, nice one, like it, lead acoustic seems to get lost a bit in the mix, imho. Rik
HEY RIKKIE, that lead..... i'm so on the fence about that... i want it to almost be in the background..... almost an afterthought... as if the listener could just daydream into the soundscape, and the solo isn't so much of a solo, as it is a feeling........... this was a pretty much 'train of thought' arrangement, very off the cuff, i sat down with one acoustic guitar, no click, no set arrangement in mind, and literally created this thing on the fly... i went back, learned what i did, then added 'flavors' to it, multitracking it and building it up.... i don't do songs like this very often, but this one was kinda special...
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/25 16:40:49
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Hi BB, the song is absolutely perfect and I'm not saying you should make that lead acoustic louder but on my crappy speakers and my crappy ears ; ) the bass is covering the low register of the lead acoustic. but after reading your thoughts about it, it does make sense. Still, lovely song and sounds ! Rik
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/25 20:47:29
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I listened on 280 pros. Sounds perfect. The imperfections make it charming. what a great song! great driving music. It has the same appeal as a song like *Wide Open Spaces* by the Dixie Chicks, but your orchestration is much more complex than that of course.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/26 11:55:32
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biodiode Listening to this on my KRK's. I like the wideness of this mix and not sure if this is intended but it reminds of YES in places. I'm not hearing what Rikkie is but that may be a mix translation/listening environment issue.
hi biodiode, i used to have a set of the small trapezoidal KRK's, they were nice speakers... the BIG ones i've heard, are pretty bad @ss.... wideness of mix.... this was mixed mostly LCR, but the NEW mix i'm working on, i've brought things in a bit..... not intended to ever sound like anything else, my tunes just land the way they do on their own... i've always love early YES, but have never learned any songs other than singing along with the albums..... when you talk about levels of 'highlighted' or solo tracks, it's always a subjective opinion...... i could mix stuff super hot, way up front, and call it 'solo level mix' decision. but i never mix that way, well, i say never, sometimes i DO lean on something heavy for intensity, but on this one, i was going for a vibe, and i mixed it as i played it....... i BACKED OFF on the solo, because it felt so personal, and reflective, it did not make sense to me to mix it hot...... so in a way, i captured a moment on 'tape', and i left it as it was played. the new mix, i'll probably bring it up a bit, and take a different approach altogether, and that's why i posted this, it's a GREAT method for me, of bouncing ideas, i steal your ideas. LOL
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/26 18:06:04
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Sounded great man!!! Your vocals always are for real, I like that about you. The music is great also, makes me think of a different time and place. Very dreamy sounding. AWeSOME!!!
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/27 06:25:39
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Nice composition .. I liked the tune and arrangement .. sounds good
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/27 10:53:47
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Lynn I remember this song-I liked it before and I like it now. It's got to be close. Perhaps, juice up the cool but subtle percussion? EQ wise, it is crisp and pops out of the speakers quite well. It shouldn't require much change.
HI LYNN, YES, pump up the percussion....... check! thanks man
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/27 10:55:20
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Rikkie Hi BB, the song is absolutely perfect and I'm not saying you should make that lead acoustic louder but on my crappy speakers and my crappy ears ; ) the bass is covering the low register of the lead acoustic. but after reading your thoughts about it, it does make sense. Still, lovely song and sounds ! Rik
you know, i did a mix session on this one last night, and decided that i had SO MUCH low end off my taylor 414 (beast is huge) that i could roll off the low end starting all the way up to 200hz, and all it did was add clarity to the mix... i think before, maybe i dipped it at around 150hz, but the mud is really from about 250 down...
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/27 11:29:53
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I always massage my bass before a session. I heard Tanya Tucker did the same thing.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/27 13:10:34
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what, massage your bass?!
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/28 11:14:18
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/28 11:15:19
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Serious_Noize! Sounded great man!!! Your vocals always are for real, I like that about you. The music is great also, makes me think of a different time and place. Very dreamy sounding. AWeSOME!!!
THANKS SERIOUS! i try to be straight up with the vocal delivery, or rather, i just try not to get in the way. LOL
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/28 11:16:52
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Makke Nice composition .. I liked the tune and arrangement .. sounds good
thank you for listening and commenting makke, believe it or not, that arrangement was off the cuff.. i had the riff worked out, but didn't know starting the track, where i would take it.. and just kinda arranged it in my head, as i went along. then, i had to go back and learn it. LOL again.....
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/28 11:18:14
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eph221 I listened on 280 pros. Sounds perfect. The imperfections make it charming. what a great song! great driving music. It has the same appeal as a song like *Wide Open Spaces* by the Dixie Chicks, but your orchestration is much more complex than that of course.
i like the sound of those 280's.... nice cans. wide open spaces, always did like that song, never thought about it like that....
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/28 11:33:55
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Nice 'front to back' 3-D feel to this mix Rob, sounds really nice to me., you've got loads of space in and around the acoustics and I like the vocals sitting back slightly where they are, takes me back (also) to early Yes, Moody Blues, that kind of thing.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/28 12:32:30
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I remember this one from before. I loved it then and love it now. Excellent guitar and vocal performances. Nice subtle percussion. Guitars sound perfectly eq'd and the vocal sits just right in-between. Great stuff
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/04/29 14:28:11
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I don't think I'd change much about this if it were mine (I only wish I could sing like that). I really liked it! If I were to do anything, I'd almost want to try a low pitched percussion part holding down a kick drum role. I'm not sure which drum it usually is - tabla? djembe? - but it's low pitched and often has a slight pitch-bend to it.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/05/01 13:33:58
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jamesg1213 Nice 'front to back' 3-D feel to this mix Rob, sounds really nice to me., you've got loads of space in and around the acoustics and I like the vocals sitting back slightly where they are, takes me back (also) to early Yes, Moody Blues, that kind of thing.
thanks for listening, james.... yes, this original mix is less in the face, and more 'around you' i'm trying a newer 'in your face' mix, but may go back to the original
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/05/02 15:14:26
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daryl1968 I remember this one from before. I loved it then and love it now. Excellent guitar and vocal performances. Nice subtle percussion. Guitars sound perfectly eq'd and the vocal sits just right in-between. Great stuff
hey daryl, so you don't have a problem with the 'wide' mix, then? seems to be an issue with some people, i've tried mixing it both ways, i can roll either way...
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/05/02 15:15:27
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stevec I don't think I'd change much about this if it were mine (I only wish I could sing like that). I really liked it! If I were to do anything, I'd almost want to try a low pitched percussion part holding down a kick drum role. I'm not sure which drum it usually is - tabla? djembe? - but it's low pitched and often has a slight pitch-bend to it.
djembe, that'd probably do! heheh, i could almost go mid east/india with the percussion on this.... that would work.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/05/02 15:33:07
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Cool - that's sorta the vibe I was getting.
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/05/02 20:17:27
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daryl1968 I remember this one from before. I loved it then and love it now. Excellent guitar and vocal performances. Nice subtle percussion. Guitars sound perfectly eq'd and the vocal sits just right in-between. Great stuff
hey daryl, so you don't have a problem with the 'wide' mix, then? seems to be an issue with some people, i've tried mixing it both ways, i can roll either way...
Nope. Let the haters hate - what do they know anyway? :)
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Re: "Pura Vida"
2016/05/03 10:48:44
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daryl1968
Nope. Let the haters hate - what do they know anyway? :)
heheh. haters. heh. i still dig the old mono beatles mixes, thrown hard left and right how f'd up is that?!
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