olemon
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"Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
I resigned myself to buying, learning and switching to another daw, was often excited about it, about the pros anyway, not the cons, and also about the integrated hardware. But now that SPlat is viable again - it is, isn't it? - I'm torn. You?
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 00:08:30
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2018/03/16 00:09:58
Before the acquisition announcement, I went out and purchased Studio One. Now that I know that Sonar will live on, it will continue to be my go-to DAW - Why? - Because I have years invested in getting to know it better than any other software and I also have a huge library of Sonar projects. The way I see it, I now have a secondary DAW which I might get some use out of and have some fun with, but no amount of money can buy the years of familiarity and knowledge I have in Sonar. I can get things done in Sonar so much faster, because I know it so very well. No brainer for me.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 00:19:22
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Try some. They are not religions. No one is going to remove your inheritance for switching.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 00:21:43
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Meng said two weeks ago an announcement will happen in 4-6 weeks. That's 2-4 weeks now. That will fly by. I'd just wait a bit longer to be honest.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 01:10:36
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I think what makes everyrhing a big unknown until we get the big announcement (a new logo, startup page background and a new name but certainly not a new chattering releas) is bandlab business model that is really in an popposite direction to the current DAW market.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 04:01:13
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mariogag ... bandlab business model that is really in an opposite direction to the current DAW market.
I don't really think it is opposite. It has been a different strategy for doing SOME of the things that we have been doing with DAWs. And maybe 10 years from now, all music -- even Grammy-winning recordings -- will be recorded, mixed, mastered, and distributes, all in the "cloud." But today, I think it is completely out of the question to do studio-grade mixing and mastering with a cloud-based approach. With today's algorithms, you need to pass a whole lot of data, and that just isn't possible on the networks available to most people. But there are plenty of useful things you CAN do in the "cloud." And most of these relate to the creative end of the cycle (as opposed to the production end.) I'd like to think that Bandlab has recognized this reality and that is why they were willing to pay for the Cakewalk assets and commit to producing a desktop app (which will probably be practically the same as SONAR in its first release.) Think of the Bandlab work flow as being creative and collaborative on the cloud. And as the project starts to take shape, it flows to the DAW for final production. And it wouldn't be one way. The commercial-grade product that emerges from the DAW can seamlessly be distributed on the the various Bandlab channels. Think of the DAW as being a key tool in a bigger system.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 04:58:36
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Discovered Cubase and now have a second love. Cubase isn't going anywhere even if Sonar comes back. I'll just use both as needed.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 08:44:30
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I bought Stuidio One about three years ago (I was having a lot of trouble with Melodyne in Sonar before ARA, S1 already had ARA) and became fairly proficient with it, but went back to Sonar. When the announcement came I dusted off my skills with Studio One - I do find it very smooth and easy to use. I did try Cubase, re-tried Reaper, and others and found them all lacking, reinforcing my view that Sonar should have been a market leader but for its poor marketing. Like a lot of others here, I was delighted to see that Sonar was acquired by BandLab, despite being a wee bit curious as to how it fits their current strategy/customer base. It's a serious DAW and should continue to be sold as such in my view. But I'm eagerly awaiting to see what emerges and quietly confindent that Meng knows what a jewel he has acquired and will nurture it accordingly.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 08:45:19
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2018/03/16 14:55:41
Oh, go on then. Post No. 2000!
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 09:19:52
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Been with CW since Sonar 2 (I think) so was a bit loathed to change now, given I had the lifetime license. But, I trailed most of the big name DAWs. Eventually settled on ProTools.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 09:55:24
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I grabbed SO3 months back and picked up a Faderport 8 too, and there's much to like there, but SPlat and a Faderport 8 may be where it's at.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 11:07:37
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olemonShould I Stay Or Should I Go With DAWs it is possible to "stay AND go" at the same time. Since Sonar has some future now, there is a big chance you can stay longer. But X1 and even early versions are still working on Win10, so even without any changes the probability you can continue next 10 years is hight. It may be unclear which future Sonar has, but the same can be written about any DAW. Check how fast other DAWs have dropped 32bit versions (and by doing so taking away 32bit plug-ins compatibility). One day it is there, next day it is gone. And not only about DAWs: one day your audio interface works with current OS version, next day it is a door stopper in case you upgrade the OS. And nothing is wrong with "walking around". You can find interesting other programs. For some you can conclude they are just "interesting", other can be useful for something particular. It can also happened you consider to "change the house". Some people are changing flats/towns/countries without asking "should I stay or should I go".
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 12:45:37
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2018/03/17 22:43:56
This is one of those questions that only you can answer. The best you will receive here are opinions. Which im sure that's why your asking anyway
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 12:58:22
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BRuys Before the acquisition announcement, I went out and purchased Studio One. Now that I know that Sonar will live on, it will continue to be my go-to DAW - Why? - Because I have years invested in getting to know it better than any other software and I also have a huge library of Sonar projects. The way I see it, I now have a secondary DAW which I might get some use out of and have some fun with, but no amount of money can buy the years of familiarity and knowledge I have in Sonar. I can get things done in Sonar so much faster, because I know it so very well. No brainer for me.
Zackly... (btw, I think Studio One looks like dog-do next to SONAR X3e.) I'm staying, with S1 as a fallback.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 13:34:40
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Hi. I got S1 Pro as a backup (tested REAPER as well) when the news came in late November. I also have MixBus4. I've worked in it/them, and have no problems, except for a few things I missed from SONAR (Region fx, and Offset mode to name a couple). I think of them as another tool(s) in the toolkit that I'm able to use. Still used SONAR as my main DAW, and will continue to do so. All the best.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 15:00:54
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Although I have Samplitude Pro as a backup, I've never left Sonar. I'm extremely comfortable with Sonar and will stay with it until one of us can't. Like Chuck said, only you'd know what's best for you.....for me it's....well, you know.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 16:45:20
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Play it by ear ... he he... get it ...he...er um ... sorry, don't get out much.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 16:51:00
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I never left. Didn't even get out of my chair.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 17:07:27
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I'm finding a use for multiple DAWS - and kinda of overjoyed to have two - SPLAT and SONE3. I go to splat primarily for my own personal song writing, and recording say, a single artist. I'm faster, less confused - and it has more tools to construct music. I also use a MOTU 1248 interface and the quality is pretty spiffy. I go to sone 3 for live or full group recording AND for mastering. The fit with the CS18, RM32, UC surface and Remote are the bees knees. A slight bit less quality than MOTU - but only slight. I can control monitors, start/stop. mix from many different locations. I really like the combination for performances - parts we record that can't be played live normally, are now at every performance. The exact effects too.. Just plain cool. It could very well be that I sub optimize my knowledge retention and speed - however, for me its all about getting to the music part. I'm a writer, performer first - engineer (loosely used term) second. Glad to have a future with whatever it will be called, formally known to me as splat. :o)
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 17:33:52
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I think this decision is largely personality driven. Some people need a single direction and they need to stay the course. If they change courses after carefully thinking their options through it'll be a cold day in hell before they go back. Some people are better at utilizing two things together. It was a bit of a circle jerkel there for a while. In reality nothing had seriously changed in terms of the software itself. We missed a few Sonar updates. Some people carried on as if nothing ever happened. Some people resigned to wait it out and see.Some people acted like they lost their lover for life. It's interesting to see the different reactions to this. Those with that singularity kind of approach simply dumped Sonar, bought something else and didn't take the time to post why.They were too busy using a replacement. I have had several daws for years. I didn't really need to buy anything else although a few of the offerings were tempting and I did buy them. I was one of those "just in case" people. If this happens then I'll have that. No matter what you do in life it's always a good idea to have a plan B. If having lots of options drives you crazy, then you will probably fare better picking just one and staying with it. If you like options and can find constructive ways to use multiple programs why not? Neither type is bad.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 19:11:01
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/03/16 19:30:14
Most peoples' rationale for switching DAWs is the fear that Microsoft will do something to break SONAR. That fear is unfounded. I'm still using Adobe Audition 3. Support for that product ceased in 2007. Windows 7, 8 and 10 all came after and Windows audio has been completely rewritten since then. But it still works. And works very well. Lots of people still use AA3's shareware predecessor, Cool Edit Pro, and it still works, too. I know people who are using SONAR 4, which predates Vista but is still chugging along. Remember that any DAW relies on Windows and third-party drivers to acquire and spit out audio. The DAW itself is just an editor, file manager, and host for plugins. Worry more about your audio interface vendor's commitment than anything else. As long as they stay in business, you're safe. The question should be: what does SONAR not do that's holding back my creative process? If the answer is "nothing", well, there's your answer.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 21:36:03
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Studio One has allowed me to be more creative. I don't know how they do it. Sometimes I go back to using Sonar. Because I was so familiar with it I am able to make a solid track. Then I go back to Studio One and the bar has risen. Moral of the story I use whatever the hell I like and if people have a problem well, it's not really a problem.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/16 22:24:37
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olemonShould I Stay Or Should I Go With DAWs it is possible to "stay AND go" at the same time... ...And nothing is wrong with "walking around". You can find interesting other programs...
Indeed. To me it's all about the learning experience. After the announcement about Gibson ditching Sonar, there were several crossgrade offers available, so this seemed like the ideal time to get hold of some new software that might potentially expand my horizons. I opted for the 2 DAWs that I found most intriguing: Mixbus32C and Digital Performer. I wasn't looking for a replacement for Sonar. It's still my goto DAW and I won't be abandoning it any time soon.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 06:09:37
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When they announced Sonar was dead, I grabbed Studio One at the special price they offered. There are some things I really like about it and, a few things I don't. I am so used to Sonar and there are so many things I really like about it. The problem for me is ..... Sonar's performance has become so sluggish and laggy it has become difficult to use. I have to sort of anticipate the lag and compensate for it. When I hit play, there is a lag before it actually starts moving. When I hit stop, it takes a second or two to actually stop. Any action I take has a lag. When I dumped some tracks over to Studio One, all lag is gone, it is very snappy and, all works as it should. Also, I am able to run with 128 ms latency. In Sonar, I have to run at 1024 ms to avoid dropouts. So, as much as I would like to stay with Sonar, I'm afraid I will have to switch over to Studio One for the improved performance. Now, IF BandLab is able to fix this issue, I would GLADLY stay with Sonar, since I am so accustomed to it.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 07:54:39
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I'm sticking with Splat and have Reason 10 as well. I've worked with both either separately or rewired for years and I ain't about to change. Reason is now a more than capable DAW in it's own right. So either Splat continues under the new owners or Windows will eventually break it. The PC (W7) I'm on at the moment will be retired soon as it's about 4 yo and I like to upgrade my hardware every 4-5 years but Spat will remain on here as a back up in case the worst happens.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 09:36:27
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Whether to stay with Sonar or switch to something else was a question I couldn't answer. I like others have used Sonar for so long that everything else is going to be compared to it. So how to make up my mind Stay or Go. Sonar will remain on my computer until it wont work anymore or more importantly Bandlab hold out their hand for money. I have absolutely no intention of paying again for something I already bought I would rather give my money to a new DAW who is much more likely to be around for a long time.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 10:39:01
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Well - I "know" Sonar from the time I got a "light" version together with my E-MU 0404 PCI card. I Liked what I saw, and I bought and started using Home Studio 6 XL (and, of course, Project 5) shortly after that introduction. Within a few months I was using the full version of Sonar. Sonar was my "first love" DAW and I know my way in this program without much thinking. However, one year ago I finally "jumped ship" to Cubase. I used Cubase and Sonar side-by-side for a long time, but decided that Cubase just fitted my workflow (especially MIDI) better than Sonar. By now I seldom use Sonar, but I still keep it around for older projects. If I would buy any upgrades for Sonar remains to be seen. It depends on the costs. If Sonar gets resurrected (in what form remains to be seen), I will gladly keep it around for some time. However, Cubase 9.5 Pro is, and will stay, my prime DAW at this moment (especially now I got HALion 6 to build my own patches, and use note-expression for play back a lot). Another point would be the Cakewalk instruments. I still use Dimension Pro, Z3TA+ 2 and Rapture. If those would get some payed-for updates (or expansions), I think I will buy these.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 11:58:46
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If it continues to look and feel like the original, I see no reason to move on elsewhere.
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 12:13:36
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SPLAT for ever ! welcome BANDLAB
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Re: "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
2018/03/17 23:46:56
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chuckebaby This is one of those questions that only you can answer. The best you will receive here are opinions. Which im sure that's why your asking anyway
The folks here always have good insight. I'm happy with SPlat as is. My only requirement is that it continue to work, as is. Curious though, as to what other people are thinking and doing. I just need to record or import audio, edit or automate audio tracks and mix/master a song. Of all the DAW's I've seen being demonstrated and taught on Youtube and so on, Sonar's Console View is unsurpassed and has always made the most sense to me. I'm impressed with Presonus, but SO3 will probably remain Plan B for now.
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