"VS-700 don't respond to settings under: "Control Strips Visible in" in prefs." - solved?

Hiding strips still doesn't work; it causes all sorts of weird behaviour. I filed 2 problem reports regarding these issues right after X2a came (see http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2742278)

You can do it, but if you do, the channel strip section starts mapping to the wrong channel. So yeah, it's currently basically an unusable feature. The state they've left this thing in is shocking, and the ongoing can't-be-bothered-addressing-customer-issues attitude is a disgrace. I'm mixing something today, and really, the console implementation is screwed up in so many ways it's laughable.

ah ok...
well that explains the behavior I guess..

so it's not a bug. just a bad design choise from cakewalk...

soo... since it's possible to right click on a track/buses in console view and choose "hide" there as well, just as in track view... maybe this could be an option to get what I want (hide all MIDI-tracks in console view)

time consuming to have to do this for every track though, but well.. better than nothing

Obviously, none of this is worth fixing or even commenting on.

Well, "control strips visible in" chooses which view the v700 bases its track arrangement on. I have that set to "Console view", because I want to see all tracks in track view, but hide some in console view, and have the v700 reflect that. That does indeed cause all kinds of wackiness regarding which channel the Channel Strip knobs map to. The whole implementation is a bit strange, but it at least used to *work*.

It is indeed in quite a state in X2. I remain stunned that Cakewalk have nothing to say about this.

John, for some reason I can't send a reply to your message I seem to be getting a lot of server errors which may be related to your problem.

My very strong suspicion is that they've essentially abandoned it. 

Exactly my complaint. I could have bought a pretty good *car* for the money it cost. Abandoning it is not on. And even if it's not abandoned, "oh, yeah, we'll get around to that" is just plain not good enough. X2 has been out for four months and v700 support has sucked, hard, for every day of that.

garybrun


I bought the full Vstudi 700 system last week and I am having problems with intregration in X2.  I do hope they havnt abondened it as I have paid a lot of money for this system.  They will be getting the whole lot back if they have.

I bought the system due to "tight intergration with sonar.."

Hi Gary, Welcome to the "club" of VS700 owners. You'll find many of the arguements here are based on what the other users want the VS700 to do. Please take your time and catalog what doesn't work for you and why. The VS 700 is short of perfection with its intregration with Sonar X2a. The integration is still very tight in the aspect of recording and editing music. I am using X1d P.E. with it right now. 8.5.3 PE was toughted as being the tightest version.
Much of the wailing in this forum is due to in-experience and features and command structures that owners-users want. Many expect the  V700C to conform to anything they throw at it. I wish Midi worked that way and every software developer wrote programs for the VS700. I don't think the surface has been abandoned. We shall see. There was an update recently. I have been through several, both software and firmware. The DAW is a progressing art, even at the higher end of equipment.

John T


Crg, you don't know what you're talking about. We're talking about c2 integration. It's pretty good with x1d. They broke it multiple ways with x2

c2 Integration? What's that? You're the worst John T. You want what you want. Several things have been explained to you and you pass them off as bad design decisions by Roland and keep dogging the system as abandoned and not working. Not working your way. I'm no wiz, but there are limits to everything. You want a team of techs and software engineers at your disposal to implement your workflow wishs and command structures. If you're that smart, write them your self dude.
 

John T


Typo. X2 integration I meant. Look, its right there in your own post. You're not using x2. Therefore you have no basis to say whether people's complaints are "whining" or not. Hence "you don't know what you are talking about". Go and find somebody else to cluelessly nit pick, I'm not in the slightest bit interested. 

I have read your complaints and posts John T. I've been doing this for a long time and you lack a great deal of detail in what went wrong, what you did, but you abound in what you want, once again without detail of the command structure to do it and what steps you took. I don't have to use X2 to know you're just fishing and negating to get an answer to your problems. You're being incomplete and contrary. Provide some detail in your posts about what you did. We don't want your secrets, we want you to be technical about the program. If you're going to post here, I'm going to answer. If you don't like my veiwpoint, don't read it. 

kday


People come here to post saying V700 system & X2 is not working right, but they don't even know what's not working otherwise they would post exactly what's not working instead of complaining. If anybody complain about X2 not working with V700, please list exactly what is not working, so we can verify if the issue affects other people system to test out. Some things may be user error, if not list the issues so a bug report can be generated and looked at by official reps.

well said.
 
pls be more precise and less emotional
 
I learn a lot from the more detailed posts; sometimes it even helps to avoid running into the same issues. others may feel the same.
 
don't forget to file official problem reports if the situation persists. but don't kill each other in dispute over dysfunctions

 The open question is: do Cakewalk have any intention of fixing them?

Too bad nobody here can answer.  I asked 10 000 times already...


The fact they never released any V-studio 700 related product ever speaks for itself. No expansion faders. No 64 bits fantom support. The Octa-capture was based on the vs700r technology hence the vs expand. It was not designed for us. Just a new flagship interface that happen to work with the VS.

Anyway, now that we know that the VS-700's golden days are over, I think we should unite our individal knowledge on how to work with it the way it is instead of hoping it will ever be improved.


Cakewalk still provide bug fixes so there's no reason to stop filling bug report. Can't say the same about feature request though... but may be worth it also.


It's been a while since I've recorded anything cause I'm building my studio right now, so I can't comment on anything but I'll be sure to stay in tune and try to help if possible.



See ya 

I've got work to do, and x2 has been out for four months now. And the control surface sat on my desk isn't really usable for much more than moving faders. It ain't good enough.