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2012/11/01 10:54:23 (permalink)

rapture envelope question

hey everybody!    can anybody explain to me how sync envelope in rapture is supposed to work???   let's say i have an amp envelope that looks vaguely like this... /\  if i set the amp eg sync to 1 i'd expect that if i hold a note for a bar the eg would cycle once during that bar. if i held the note for 2 beats it would get to the top of the curve and if i triggered another 2 beat note immediately following the envelope would restart.  this isn't how it works in my experience and i've had a bit of trouble figuring out how exactly it DOES work...  any help or comments???  THANKS! 

 
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    Re:rapture envelope question 2012/11/01 11:25:15 (permalink)
    If you left click just above the envelope window you'll bring up a context menu to allow you to set the selected node as a loop start point as long as you have a sustain node later in the envelope. That is the part that is looped in sync as I understand it.

    Sustain nodes are set the same way but you can't have a loop start point without a sustain point.

    As long as the note is being played it follows the envelope to a sustain point and then either stays there until note off, if there is no loop point or returns to the loop node if there is one.

    Hope that makes sense.

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    Re:rapture envelope question 2012/11/01 12:26:01 (permalink)
    ah! thanks karl. ill give this a shot. i really wish when the mode was changed to snap the nodes in sync mode the bars would reflect beats and no seconds.

     
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    Re:rapture envelope question 2012/11/01 21:27:01 (permalink)
    hey karl. nice idea, but no matter how i set up sustain or loop nodes and regions, nothing produces the expected results.  what i was thinking is that it would work like the envelopes in absynth and zebra.  oh well, guess i'll just use them instead.

    EDIT - aw dammit karl, i keep forgetting that a sync of 1 in rapture is NOT a whole note, it's a beat so an 1/8 sync is really a 1/32nd note and a 4 is a measure. duh.  some of the envelopes are syncing now, some refuse downright to do it.  my bad.
    post edited by swamptooth - 2012/11/02 00:24:17

     
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    Re:rapture envelope question 2012/11/02 02:59:25 (permalink)
    No worries I'm no synth expert by any stretch of the imagination. I just use them from time to time and can usually manage to edit the sounds I want. I find them unituitive though. Left click for menu for example.

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