record with 0 db? -5db, -10db?

hi folks,
 
ive watched some videos about the db to record with, it should be something around -5dv to -10db but in some videos people telling to go up to 0db and want to know why? isnt that too loud?
 
i mean u have no headroom left then...
here are the links, exact to the second where he explains

youtu.be/HhkNcaI_0LE?t=145
youtu.be/dRa26Xxe1EM?t=135
 
 
ps, i cant post links u have to copie the link above
 

I would advice against recording to 0db. It gives you no margin of error. You can always boost a signal but a fried recording is just a ruined recording.

sharke

LANEY
I wish I still had the article that has specific settings depending on your interface.  There was a formula and how to set it with your interface.  I think mine ended up being -16db and when I switched to doing that, my recordings sounded great.  It was also easier to mix with. Focusrite interfaces sweet spot was -12db as I recall
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/gain-staging-your-daw-software

track at -12db 
mix at -20db 

I agree this is a good rule of thumb 

I've read that Sound On Sound article before and I'm not sure if I agree with his statement "...many people, including me, believe that the summing engines in different DAWs don't always produce the same results when summing lots of very high-level signals, and that these differences can be audible." That sounds kind of vague to me, and for all this talk of differences in the summing engines of DAW's, has anyone actually been able to confirm it through testing? 

Some time ago PT used fixed point summing and there might have been issues with summing there.
 
With floating point summing that Sonar uses (and virtually everything else today as well) only ignorant people - meaning people who don't understand floating point math - believe stuff like that. 

Listen to the Bitflipper, for truly he is wise in the ways of bits!

(That almost sounds facetious, but was not intended to be)

Not to mention that if you record to 0 or even -3 or -6dB then it's just going to get dialed way back anyways when you do all your proper gain-staging for final mixing.
 
I try and record to the level that I will be ultimately gain-staging to, so normally RMS around -12dB for my own stuff or even down to -16dB if I know there will be lots and lots of tracks. Makes gain-staging much faster, and on many tracks it's not needed at all.
 

Thanks Soundwise,
 
Unearthing the curse of noise when compression is applied. I always compress to the insane for sustain and battle with taming the noise swell as soon as your signal is not maxed out. 
 
Long time ago, reverb was the hardest effect to make credible. They done a good job. Even got overdrive nowdays to be credible as well.
 
Last threshold of struggle is the noise gate. 50 years from now, it will be pristine, but not now.
 
Physical layout of the environment is cardinal until we find a better solution to help primitive technology to limp along in the vision of a better day.
 
Every bleeding source of inductance is a curse if you are compressing the input. Noise floor of the soundcard overwhelmed by the inductance buzz. Input thinks the buzz from a florescent fixture is just part of the music.
 
Have used extensions for the computer to distance the fan and power supply as far away as possible. Have phase switches on the guitars that can negate some of the interference sometimes. Wiring in the walls, distance even from an LED monitor.
 
Was worse though when the thick CRT monitors were your only option. The radiation was so overpowering you could not sit in front of the monitor without the noise being as powerful as the signal. Did not affect midi, but a guitar or a mic had to be more than 10 feet away. Best software in the world was otherwise useless. That gave rise to hardware things like Red Rover. Allowed you to be 15 feet away from the monitor and still control the DAW so you were not destroyed in a cloud of static.
 
Totally off the wall, Sound, but going thru your website, listening to your tunes. Excellent guitarist. (Trying to unload my deep prejudices that a girl can't play a guitar...) You rock by any standard.
 
John