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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/12 13:13:19 (permalink)
Thanks, Bristol, for explaining that to me.
 
Hopefully it's not my ears.   That would not be good.
 
I have been working on several songs over the past few years (I'm slow).   Listening to the songs where I used the mudguard, the vocals seem fine.  But the songs without the mudguard are the ones with the issue.  So maybe that's all it is.  I really hope so, anyway.
 
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/12 13:50:42 (permalink)
Forgive the possibly obvious question, but if you record something besides vocals, does it also sound mid-rangy?

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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/12 14:56:48 (permalink)
No, everything else sounds fine.  It's just vocals.  So perhaps it is the room.
 
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/12 15:03:35 (permalink)
Just get your Mudguard back.

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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/13 11:09:34 (permalink)
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Just get your Mudguard back.





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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/13 11:24:37 (permalink)
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Just get your Mudguard back.








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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/16 15:16:42 (permalink)
UPDATE:   It seems the mudguard was the issue - or lack of the mudguard.   I guess I have really bad acoustics in my room.   The mudguard definitely helps.
 
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/16 15:32:34 (permalink)
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UPDATE:   It seems the mudguard was the issue - or lack of the mudguard.   I guess I have really bad acoustics in my room.   The mudguard definitely helps.
 
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/16 19:18:01 (permalink)
As for spectrogram graphs there are iPhone apps that work pretty good.  I use the free Oxford Wave Research app. I take it to live gigs to figure out the room.
 
On my computer I open the track in a wave editor which all contain spectral analysis. It should be part of everyone's Mastering  routine. Your ears can lie to you so a visual will confirm what your hearing.

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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/17 03:02:03 (permalink)
It sounds to me like you're simply expecting a dynamic mic to sound like a large diaphragm condenser, and the mudguard helps a little in that respect. More power to it. But I wouldn't instantly blame the room, a dynamic mic will usually have more mid and less top and sub than a large diaphragm condenser no matter what room it is in. Room acoustics should play a relatively small role if you're using a dynamic mic and singing close to it.
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/17 10:36:39 (permalink)
Thanks, guys!   I used the mudguard to do vocals a long time ago, then removed it.  I didn't realize how much it helped.
 
Sanderxpander:  I have never used dynamic mics for vocals.   I have always used large diaphragm condenser mics.
 
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/17 12:02:27 (permalink)
Ah I was thrown off by you saying "at the moment I don't have a condenser mic".
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Re: recording and excessive mids 2016/08/17 16:12:11 (permalink)
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Ah I was thrown off by you saying "at the moment I don't have a condenser mic".

 
I should have clarified that.  Sorry.
 
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