recording guitar

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2006/02/23 15:08:40 (permalink)

recording guitar

well... when i connect my guitar to my sound card(creative sblive),the sound comes with some distortion and disturbance,even when its cean tone,i connect my guitar troughg effect processor then into sound card.
......when i lower the volume of guitar the sound become lil bit clear but become too dull to reacord,
......the distortion is also not giving a powerful sound through a sound card
......should i use an amplifier before connecting directly froma effect processor to sound card imean.
guitar-effect processor-amlifier(e.g create gx30)-sound card.
will thge sound improve.
or sholud i adapt any other method
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    jweldinger
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 15:13:40 (permalink)
    I would plug the guitar in the GX30, and use a microphone positioned 6~12" from the speaker to record with.
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    jaxxxkhan
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 15:21:10 (permalink)
    hummmmmm dont u think that will disturb the quality,like there will be humm and some sorrounding sound coming.
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    juicerocks
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 15:40:53 (permalink)
    Sounds like your clipping the signal. Your too hot.
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 15:48:47 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: jaxxxkhan

    hummmmmm dont u think that will disturb the quality,like there will be humm and some sorrounding sound coming.

    Nope. that's how 99.99% of guitars you'll hear in CDs and on the radio are, have been, and always will be recorded.
    The room sound gives it a fuller tone.
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    Skolnick
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 15:49:09 (permalink)
    Only if you're doing this in a noisy room. Using a mic to record is a much better way to capture your sound. If you have a noisy room and want to do it, look into getting Randall Isolation cabinets. They're great!

    http://www.randallamplifiers.com/products/cabinets/isolation/index.asp

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    Junski
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 16:24:10 (permalink)
    If not yet using, you can also try if Asio4All improves anything.

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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/23 16:34:27 (permalink)
    1 thing will dramatically improve everything......get a soundcard meant for recording!!

    Check out my song and but it if you like it! http://itunes.apple.com/u...ure-single/id434903136
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    jaxxxkhan
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/24 15:10:54 (permalink)
    hummmmmmm.thanx for the coments.i have asked the question ,coz i want to record good remaning in my currnt set up......i know i ll not face any problem if i have the best sound card the best guitar the best amp.....one should do his best by remaning in a cuurent setup.
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/24 16:46:32 (permalink)
    Room sound may be good if you've got a good sounding room. I always go for a minimum of room sound - an SM57 up against the amp grill cloth with foam baffles around.
    Then when mixing, I use a couple of reverbs in series on the track. The first one - a short ambient reverb, followed by a convolution reverb with a larger room sound. By adjusting level on the first reverb it is really effective in getting a feel of depth and space.
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    Guitarpima
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/24 21:23:29 (permalink)
    For those of us who do not have the option of crackin an amp up and recordint it that way, which is preferable, there is products like Line 6. As soundcards the Line 6 product drivers are questionable. (unless you happen to have a setup that works well and very few seem to)
    There are good quality soundcards out there cheap enough and have DI inputs that work well for the guitar. I USED to use SB audigy and was not happy at all with it. Good luck.
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    ooblecaboodle
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/25 10:27:21 (permalink)
    Also, consider getting a POD.
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/25 11:31:17 (permalink)
    I'm using a Line 6 POD XTL as my soundcard via USB and it works great. I record all guitars, bass and keyboards through it, as well as feed my powered monitors.

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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/25 12:56:43 (permalink)
    Personally I have an E-MU 1820 sound card, and I use a BOSS GT-6 processor when I record direct and couldn't be happier.

    Check out my song and but it if you like it! http://itunes.apple.com/u...ure-single/id434903136
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    jaxxxkhan
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/26 15:20:59 (permalink)
    HUMMMM..... WELL I USE PROCESSOR ZOOM 505 II .MAY BE IT IS THE PROBLEM...BUT I HAVE SEEN A GUY WHO GOT PROCESSOR DIGITECH GNX 2 AND SOUND CARD SB LIVE ,HE ALWAYS RECORDED DIRECTLY ,I MEAN DIRECTL FROM EFFECT PROCESSOR TO SOUND CARD,AND THE OUT IS AWSOME.
    BUT IDONT KNOW IN MY CASE ITS NOT WORKING WELL,IN EVEN IN RECORDING LIVE SOUND THROUGH SOUND CARD IS NOT COMMING GOOD ,EVEN THE CEAN TONE THROUGH M EFFECT PROCESSOR IS COMMING DESTORTED FROM COMPUTER SPEAKE LIVE.
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/26 16:00:13 (permalink)
    Some people consider all caps as yelling.


    To record direct you must use the LINE INPUT of a sound card not the MICROPHONE INPUT. The impedance of the signals as well as the anticipated signal strength is radically different in these two input jakcs.



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    psonicspot
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/26 20:01:40 (permalink)

    You can record decent guitar tracks using the SBLive! I used to do it many, many moons ago by first going thru my POD, then into the Live card. The trick is in setting your volume levels on your EFX unit and in the SBLive app. so that you're getting a good strong balance between the two and not clipping in your audio app. Also make sure you're connecting to the right input on the card. I believe there is a line-in and a mic input. Make sure you're using the line-in.

    You'll always get a better guitar sound by mic'ing your amp, but if you don't have a mic, you can always go direct as above and touch it up with a nice little perfect space guitar amp preset.

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    jaxxxkhan
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 03:41:42 (permalink)
    thanxxxxxxxxxxx lolz but but when i conect through line in ,and when i record the sound ,the sound is recorded in mono chennel ,may be my processor produces only mono line in out put (zoom 505 11),is there any processor who produces sterio line in out put.what about .behringer v-amp-2, should i buy it .
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    NYSR
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 09:04:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: jaxxxkhan

    thanxxxxxxxxxxx lolz but but when i conect through line in ,and when i record the sound ,the sound is recorded in mono chennel ,may be my processor produces only mono line in out put (zoom 505 11),is there any processor who produces sterio line in out put.what about .behringer v-amp-2, should i buy it .


    First: Most sound cards do record stereo line in but you need a stereo line in plug. For consumer cards it is usually a tip ring sleve sort of deal.

    Second: Rarely if ever record a guitar in stereo. You want mono. Stereo is ONLY for a live performance where you wnat the stereo its uncapturable ambience. Or for a recording that will be mostly unedited. It is well nigh impossible to do decent work in a multitrack environment using stereo tracks. The music Industry prefers by a long shot to record all instruments in mono and then pan them to their final position in the stereo field adding stereo effects under stronger control.

    A stereo track has to be perfect exactly as is for the whole mix or it becomes unmanageable.



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    Elvenking
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 16:12:25 (permalink)
    Hey ooble...I respect a lot of your comments....and your a good source of knowledge....

    However, being a DI recorder myself...I will have to submit some contention with the 99.99% figure. Hhehehehhee..
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 16:13:33 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Elvenking

    Hey ooble...I respect a lot of your comments....and your a good source of knowledge....

    However, being a DI recorder myself...I will have to submit some contention with the 99.99% figure. Hhehehehhee..

    Yeah, I know - You're the 0.001% lol!!
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 16:15:46 (permalink)
    Ohhh now yer just digging. I'm okay.....I am okay.

    Trust me...if I had the money, and a place to do it...I would mic up.


    ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle

    ORIGINAL: Elvenking

    Hey ooble...I respect a lot of your comments....and your a good source of knowledge....

    However, being a DI recorder myself...I will have to submit some contention with the 99.99% figure. Hhehehehhee..

    Yeah, I know - You're the 0.001% lol!!

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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 16:28:49 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Junski

    If not yet using, you can also try if Asio4All improves anything.

    Junski



    Or, if you prefer, you can try the kX Audio Driver for soundblaster products:
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    j boy
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/02/27 17:24:03 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: NYSR

    Some people consider all caps as yelling.


    To record direct you must use the LINE INPUT of a sound card not the MICROPHONE INPUT. The impedance of the signals as well as the anticipated signal strength is radically different in these two input jakcs.

    ...and whatever you do jaxxkhan, don't take that cord that runs from your amplifier brain to the speaker cab and run that into your soundcard. Or if you do, take photographs so we can see what happens...
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    RE: recording guitar 2006/03/06 03:54:54 (permalink)



    jaxxxkhan

    There are many of us who would not use an SBLive in our DAWS who have nevertheless used them in the past and have gotten them to work fairly well without significant distortion. I think the suggestions regarding using different drivers, the KX one for example, may work. You may also want to make sure that the Creative drivers are loading properly. Last time I used one of the cards some years ago I had to uninstall and reinstall the whole thing before everything worked well.

    Richard

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