recording midi tracks into audio tracks, sonar 8, windows 7?

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2011/06/17 20:59:12 (permalink)

recording midi tracks into audio tracks, sonar 8, windows 7?

sorry if this has been discussed, I did search but found nothing, I'm a huge noob and need serious help capturing my midi drums as audio so I can bounce all my tracks into one final wav that includes the programmed midi drums.

I've been able to do this successfully for years but the problem is I just got a new machine (gateway p7805ufx with conexant soundcard, and godamn windows 7) and I can record my guitar and bass just fine via microphone.....but I can't figure out how to get sonar audio tracks to "hear" sounds the computer is making in order to record the midi drums I program into an audio track.

always in the past I would program midi drums, record audio tracks of guitar and bass along to them, then change the "listen" from microphone to stereo mixer, and record just the midi drums as they played into yet another audio track so that I could export all the audio tracks into one final wav (complete with all my tracks of guitars basses AND the programmed midi drums) and burn it to a CD or whatever. this also cured the latency between the midi and audio tracks.

but that was in windows XP, now there appears to be no way to do this. I even ticked "show disabled devices" and "show disconnected devices" as per a supposed solution I found in google...but whereas they claimed a stereo mixer-type option would then be available to select, there still are no other devices showing for me except microphone.

so how can I get my midi drums to ultimately be a part of my finalized wav exports, anyone? please, thank you!
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    Chappel
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    Re:recording midi tracks into audio tracks, sonar 8, windows 7? 2011/06/17 21:22:15 (permalink)
    What kind of "Midi Drums" are you referring to? Are you using an external Midi controller? Entering Midi Data in the PRV? Staff View? Step Sequencer? Are you using Midi files you downloaded from the Internet?

    Whichever way you are using you will most likely need to use a soft(ware) synth to create the sounds you hear unless you are using the Microsoft Wavetable device for Midi playback. If that is the case I strongly urge you to buy a more sophisticated Audio Interface if you plan on doing anything with Midi and soft synths. And, of course, they greatly increase your audio recording capabilities. To call the Microsoft Wavetable device a toy would be a disservice to toys everywhere.

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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re:recording midi tracks into audio tracks, sonar 8, windows 7? 2011/06/18 09:30:58 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum!

    Windows version has got nothing to with producing MIDI-sounds.

    As you might know, MIDI is not sound, so your questions can't be answered without knowing what you use to produce sound for your MIDI-tracks, as Chappel already pointed out..

    What software version are you using, is it 8 LE, Studio or PE? If either of the latter ones, you have good drum sounds in soft synths like TTS-1. Have you done the tutorial about using soft synths?

    As Chappel suggests, a proper soundcard is good to have if you want to use soft synth in an effective way without disturbuing latency.

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