re-mix - "Jamie's Sarrow"

Nicely constructed song, good melody over tasteful piano. Very distinctive vocals as usual.

One question - what does 'Sarrow' mean?

James

Grove, I've liked every one of your songs so far. It's eerie how much your style reminds me of a guy I used to play with, the piano arrangements and vocals. I think your brief solo could be a little more out front. You surely evoke John Lennon, and how could that possibly be bad?
Mark

Hey Grove - you know, with all those hundreds of forum names, it is almost impossible to remember them all right away, right? However, as soon as your song started I remembered your voice. This in turn made me remember your last tune which I really liked!
Anyways - another great tune, well done - with lots of ambition and emotion, great piano playing - and, man - I repeat myself: Great voice!
Thanks
Heinz.

You wrote "The vocals seem a little awkward during the bridge (2:10). Just MO". I may be to close to my song or something. I don't hear the problem. Please let me know what you're hearing. The drums don't have any reverb. Also I have no reverb on the piano. I play a Alesis keyboard QS8. I don't use any FX. I'm not sure how to do any thing other then record.

I'm working on the mixing problems. I mix using my head phones. The mix sounds good, but when I play in my car it doesn't sound as good. I'm not a big fan of mixing yet. I just love to record. I think I may be getting better.

Heinz, Thank you once again for your kind words. When I'm not at work, I am working on music. It's always good to hear from you.

I wish you the best.

P.S. I'm working on a song "This Dream" right now. I hope to finish it soon.

Hello again, Groveen

I got an automated mail on this thread, since I always check the "notify me" box--and I wanted to throw some things in here.--OH, first I should say, good deal that you're changing the spelling to "Sorrow."

There was feedback about the vocals seeming awkward at 2:10--That got me curious, and I had to listen again. That's one of the John Lennon moments, but to me it's coming off fine. I'm not sure what that feedback meant really.

But then you said:

"...The drums don't have any reverb. Also I have no reverb on the piano. I play a Alesis keyboard QS8. I don't use any FX. I'm not sure how to do any thing other then record."

And in another post on this thread, you said you're not a fan of mixing yet.

OK, I'm here to encourage you to get into the production process more. You're writing good songs which have a unique personality to them. Inspired by late '60's stuff, but still new sounding, and all that is good. You're even better off than most song writers since you're able to sing your songs well also. All pluses.

Now you Gotta gotta gotta find out what the deal is with FX. It's really not that big of a deal. No need to go crazy trying to Learn It All. Just use the FX that come with your Cakewalk program for now. You have the tracks in the sequencer, right?--Now, just add reverb to the drums, piano, vocal. Instantly will sound more professional and polished. It's not a matter of being gimmicks--those effects, especially reverb, are what make synth generated tracks sound more natural. The synth piano you're using is "dry" in a way a real piano could never be. Add a bit of small room reverb and it'll suddenly be more believable. Drums are played in a room, it's impossible for them to be as dry as you have them--add the reverb, and suddenly they're sounding more like an actual drummer playing in a room.

Your music will just be that more impressive. And to use the most basic FX in the simplest way is So not difficult. It will take you literally a few minutes to figure out.

Mixing is what makes good tracks sound Fantastic or just average. Right now, we enjoy hearing the essence of your music, but most people would realize it's not quite sounding right, even if they couldn't explain why. It's because you haven't Produced your recordings.

I predict that once you start doing a bit more with producing your music, you'll get excited, and realize it can be almost as much fun as writing the music in the first place.

Randy
rbowser

Nice tune, inspiring voice... Thanks for sharing. Also... great advice from previous treads...

To rbowser and ,Beagle I enter reverb on drums and vocals. I'm not a big fan of Sonar reverb, so I didn't put much on.

to beagle, I did bring up the synth a bit. maybe to much.

to beagle, I re-did the bridge, (2:10) vocals. chasekh
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to chasekh, I tight up the vocals. I feel best about this work.


to Dave King, I did tightened up" a bit. And I used just a touch of reverb.

I posted the new "Jamie's Sorrow about the first one"


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=431867

Dave King


I agree with Randy's comments.

I think some parts could be "tightened up" a bit. And just a touch of reverb or delay here and there would open things up and provide a bigger and more polished sound. A little more "space" would add a lot, I believe.

I like it though. My first reaction was ah... this is Beatle-ish. Which is a good thing!

Back than I didn't like to use reverb at all. here it is with reverb
Better letter than Never, Here it is http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_12026883
 
 
 
 
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_12026883

This is a  most unique song, especially with your singing style.  It's not far from being polished.  I just listened to the new mix with the reverb, and I think it sounds fine to me.  Whether you like mixing or not, you've done a pretty good job, and your arrangement is good.  I suspect once you get more experienced at mixing, you may discover that it's a very satisfying art form in itself.  All in all, nice job.