[resolved] sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program

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2014/01/01 07:48:32 (permalink)

[resolved] sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program

Hi All,
 
I've noticed after I shutdown and close sonar X3d, I can't re-start the program again until I restart my PC. 
 
I later found after running task manager there is a sonarstd.exe process still running even after I shut it down.
 
I can simply end the process from task manger and then start sonar again...
 
I've dumped the process, ran a quick windows dump analysis, seems the sonarstd process is waiting for object call to ntdll to return...
 

 
ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa:
00007ffe`98a665ba c3              ret
 
 
 
STACK_TEXT:  
00000000`0013fb48 00007ffe`96101148 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`0013fb90 00000000`0013fba0 00000000`0410f890 : ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
00000000`0013fb50 00007ffe`93078dbb : 00000000`000000c0 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000560 : KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
00000000`0013fbf0 00007ffe`93079280 : 00000000`028105a0 00000000`02876620 00000000`00000000 00000001`40f6d608 : wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+0x8f
00000000`0013fc20 00007ffe`93077771 : 00000000`00000000 00007ffe`90eb6d76 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::Shutdown+0x10
00000000`0013fc50 00007ffe`93077aed : 00000000`0013fcc0 00007ffe`90c16338 00000001`00000000 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!CMIDISynthTask::MODMClose+0x1e
00000000`0013fc80 00007ffe`9306c2f4 : 00000000`0000000c 00007ffe`00000000 00000000`107e43a0 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!SwModMessage+0xb5
00000000`0013fcb0 00007ffe`90ec6cc4 : 00000000`028716b0 00000000`0013fe80 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!CBusIds::CBusIds+0x2818
00000000`0013fcf0 00000001`403c4426 : 00000000`028716b0 00000000`0013fe80 00000000`00000000 00000001`40f6d608 : WINMMBASE!midiOutClose+0x9c
00000000`0013fd30 00000001`403c43d4 : 00000000`028716b0 00000000`00000000 00000000`0013fe80 00000001`403c2cb2 : SONARSTD+0x3c4426
00000000`0013fd70 00000001`403c6334 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`fffffffe 00000000`00000000 : SONARSTD+0x3c43d4
00000000`0013fda0 00000001`4038748b : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`fffffffe 00000001`411ef220 : SONARSTD+0x3c6334
00000000`0013fdd0 00000001`405995af : 00000001`411c3510 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`00000006 : SONARSTD+0x38748b
00000000`0013fe00 00000001`40596ed7 : 00000001`00000001 00000001`00000001 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000001 : SONARSTD+0x5995af
00000000`0013feb0 00007ffe`6d72cf4a : 00000000`00000001 00000000`043bad18 00000000`0013fee8 00000000`00000001 : SONARSTD+0x596ed7
00000000`0013fee0 00000001`404aa6f6 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`0000001f : mfc110u!AfxWinMain+0xa6
00000000`0013ff20 00007ffe`983515cd : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SONARSTD+0x4aa6f6
00000000`0013ff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0013ff90 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
 
 
0:000> ~* k
 
.  0  Id: 2b18.29a4 Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffffc000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0013fb48 00007ffe`96101148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
00000000`0013fb50 00007ffe`93078dbb KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
00000000`0013fbf0 00007ffe`93079280 wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+0x8f
00000000`0013fc20 00007ffe`93077771 wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::Shutdown+0x10
00000000`0013fc50 00007ffe`93077aed wdmaud!CMIDISynthTask::MODMClose+0x1e
00000000`0013fc80 00007ffe`9306c2f4 wdmaud!SwModMessage+0xb5
00000000`0013fcb0 00007ffe`90ec6cc4 wdmaud!CBusIds::CBusIds+0x2818
00000000`0013fcf0 00000001`403c4426 WINMMBASE!midiOutClose+0x9c
00000000`0013fd30 00000001`403c43d4 SONARSTD+0x3c4426
00000000`0013fd70 00000001`403c6334 SONARSTD+0x3c43d4
00000000`0013fda0 00000001`4038748b SONARSTD+0x3c6334
00000000`0013fdd0 00000001`405995af SONARSTD+0x38748b
00000000`0013fe00 00000001`40596ed7 SONARSTD+0x5995af
00000000`0013feb0 00007ffe`6d72cf4a SONARSTD+0x596ed7
00000000`0013fee0 00000001`404aa6f6 mfc110u!AfxWinMain+0xa6
00000000`0013ff20 00007ffe`983515cd SONARSTD+0x4aa6f6
00000000`0013ff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0013ff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   1  Id: 2b18.2adc Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffeb2000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`05fffe68 00007ffe`96101148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
00000000`05fffe70 00000001`40487269 KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
00000000`05ffff10 00007ffe`983515cd SONARSTD+0x487269
00000000`05ffff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`05ffff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   2  Id: 2b18.2b20 Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffeb0000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`061ffb28 00007ffe`961012ee ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0xa
00000000`061ffb30 00007ffe`97b943da KERNELBASE!WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0xe1
00000000`061ffe10 00007ffe`9767166b user32!MsgWaitForMultipleObjects+0x14c
00000000`061ffec0 00007ffe`9767277c GdiPlus!BackgroundThreadProc+0x63
00000000`061fff30 00007ffe`983515cd GdiPlus!DllRefCountSafeThreadThunk+0x18
00000000`061fff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`061fff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   3  Id: 2b18.cc Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffea6000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0c50fdd8 00007ffe`913844a9 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0xa
00000000`0c50fde0 00007ffe`983515cd winmm!timeThread+0x8d
00000000`0c50ff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0c50ff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   4  Id: 2b18.2a58 Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffea4000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0cbff6f8 00007ffe`961012ee ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0xa
00000000`0cbff700 00007ffe`97eb23c2 KERNELBASE!WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0xe1
00000000`0cbff9e0 00007ffe`97f3981e combase!WaitCoalesced+0x96 [d:\blue_gdr\com\published\comutils\coalescedwait.cxx @ 72]
00000000`0cbffc30 00007ffe`97eecd1e combase!CDllHost::MTAWorkerLoop+0x76 [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\objact\dllhost.cxx @ 1021]
00000000`0cbffc80 00007ffe`97f110b5 combase!CDllHost::WorkerThread+0x122 [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\objact\dllhost.cxx @ 939]
00000000`0cbffcc0 00007ffe`97f11255 combase!CRpcThread::WorkerLoop+0x31 [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\dcomrem\threads.cxx @ 264]
00000000`0cbfff30 00007ffe`983515cd combase!CRpcThreadCache::RpcWorkerThreadEntry+0x46 [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\dcomrem\threads.cxx @ 67]
00000000`0cbfff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0cbfff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   5  Id: 2b18.2be8 Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffea2000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0ccffbd8 00007ffe`97b925c5 user32!NtUserGetMessage+0xa
00000000`0ccffbe0 00007ffe`97f14ce5 user32!GetMessageW+0x25
00000000`0ccffc10 00007ffe`97ee8d52 combase!CDllHost::STAWorkerLoop+0x5d [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\objact\dllhost.cxx @ 1093]
00000000`0ccffc80 00007ffe`97f110b5 combase!CDllHost::WorkerThread+0xbe [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\objact\dllhost.cxx @ 952]
00000000`0ccffcc0 00007ffe`97f11255 combase!CRpcThread::WorkerLoop+0x31 [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\dcomrem\threads.cxx @ 264]
00000000`0ccfff30 00007ffe`983515cd combase!CRpcThreadCache::RpcWorkerThreadEntry+0x46 [d:\blue_gdr\com\combase\dcomrem\threads.cxx @ 67]
00000000`0ccfff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0ccfff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   6  Id: 2b18.f18 Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffea0000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0cdffcf8 00007ffe`96101148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
00000000`0cdffd00 00000001`402aca09 KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
00000000`0cdffda0 00007ffe`6d6fd5f4 SONARSTD+0x2aca09
00000000`0cdffdd0 00007ffe`90bd3fef mfc110u!_AfxThreadEntry+0x100
00000000`0cdfff00 00007ffe`90bd4196 msvcr110!beginthreadex+0x107
00000000`0cdfff30 00007ffe`983515cd msvcr110!endthreadex+0x192
00000000`0cdfff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0cdfff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   7  Id: 2b18.291c Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffe9e000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0d0ffcf8 00007ffe`96101148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
00000000`0d0ffd00 00000001`402aca09 KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
00000000`0d0ffda0 00007ffe`6d6fd5f4 SONARSTD+0x2aca09
00000000`0d0ffdd0 00007ffe`90bd3fef mfc110u!_AfxThreadEntry+0x100
00000000`0d0fff00 00007ffe`90bd4196 msvcr110!beginthreadex+0x107
00000000`0d0fff30 00007ffe`983515cd msvcr110!endthreadex+0x192
00000000`0d0fff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0d0fff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 
   8  Id: 2b18.710 Suspend: 0 Teb: 00007ff5`ffeb6000 Unfrozen
Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
00000000`0464fcf8 00007ffe`96101148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
00000000`0464fd00 00000001`402aca09 KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
00000000`0464fda0 00007ffe`6d6fd5f4 SONARSTD+0x2aca09
00000000`0464fdd0 00007ffe`90bd3fef mfc110u!_AfxThreadEntry+0x100
00000000`0464ff00 00007ffe`90bd4196 msvcr110!beginthreadex+0x107
00000000`0464ff30 00007ffe`983515cd msvcr110!endthreadex+0x192
00000000`0464ff60 00007ffe`98a443d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
00000000`0464ff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d
 

 
post edited by JimmyBoy - 2014/07/11 06:48:15

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    JimmyBoy
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 07:52:00 (permalink) 

    0:000> !threads
    Index TID   TEB    StackBase   StackLimit   DeAlloc   StackSize   ThreadProc
    0 00000000000029a4 0x00007ff5ffffc000 0x0000000000140000 0x000000000011d000 0x0000000000040000 0x0000000000023000 0x0
    1 0000000000002adc 0x00007ff5ffeb2000 0x0000000006000000 0x0000000005ffe000 0x0000000005f00000 0x0000000000002000 0x0
    2 0000000000002b20 0x00007ff5ffeb0000 0x0000000006200000 0x00000000061fe000 0x0000000006100000 0x0000000000002000 0x0
    3 00000000000000cc 0x00007ff5ffea6000 0x000000000c510000 0x000000000c50e000 0x000000000c410000 0x0000000000002000 0x0
    4 0000000000002a58 0x00007ff5ffea4000 0x000000000cc00000 0x000000000cbfe000 0x000000000cb00000 0x0000000000002000 0x0
    5 0000000000002be8 0x00007ff5ffea2000 0x000000000cd00000 0x000000000ccfc000 0x000000000cc00000 0x0000000000004000 0x0
    6 0000000000000f18 0x00007ff5ffea0000 0x000000000ce00000 0x000000000cdf4000 0x000000000cd00000 0x000000000000c000 0x0
    7 000000000000291c 0x00007ff5ffe9e000 0x000000000d100000 0x000000000d0f8000 0x000000000d000000 0x0000000000008000 0x0
    8 0000000000000710 0x00007ff5ffeb6000 0x0000000004650000 0x0000000004648000 0x0000000004550000 0x0000000000008000 0x0
    Total VM consumed by thread stacks 0x0004b000


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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 08:47:40 (permalink)
    Sometimes a MIDI device doesn't disconnect when you shut sonar down. If you have such a device trying disconnecting the USB cable before shutting down sonar. See if that works.

    Without knowing more about the equipment you might have connected its hard to be more specific.

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 09:26:21 (permalink)
    as mugel said I also think its a midi devise not letting go and the only real way to stop it is to do a hard reset of your PC
     
    but I have found a way that shaves off a few minutes.
    log off your PC, then log on, its almost like powering down/on but saves a lot of time.
    look for a device in task manager that is still running, a midi driver perhaps.
    then you will know your offender, m audio is the culprit mostly here.
     
    have any m audio devices ?

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 09:34:26 (permalink)
    From some parts of the dump, it looks like Sonar is still sending audio to your audio interface.  Do you have a real long echo delay or something that keeps sending sound after the project ends?  Possibly feeding some input signal out to your soundcard even if a project is not playing?  You may want to consider turning off playing tails (trails) after project stops in preferences.
     
    If manually stopping the "Audio Engine" before closing Sonar fixes the problem it is something in this neighborhood.
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 10:26:13 (permalink)
    Is it possible that you have one or more 32-bit plugins present in the project that is loaded when you close Sonar?  If so, it is quite possible that BitBridge may still be loaded in memory, and I believe it can hang a restart of Sonar until it gets flushed out of memory.  It is like it does not always disconnect.  I believe you would be able to see BitBridge in Task Manager, if this is the source of the issue.
     
    Also, what happens if you close the project first and then terminate Sonar?  If this works, it may serve as an annoying workaround, but would be less the pain than having to restart.
     
    Hope this helps, 
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 18:12:31 (permalink)
    Hi All,
     
    Thanks for your responses.
     
    I don't have any USB Devices connected, I'm using internal PC sound card - just been messing around with virtual Midi Synth (CW TTS) and VSTi (Z3TA+2 interface) and routing midi tracks to them.
     
    I quickly tried earlier this morning to try and replicate the problem and found that I couldn't, however I hadn't made any changes to my project which I've been testing/learning with, just haven't had the time today as I'm back to work already :(
     
    Seems Sonar is waiting on wdmaud to respond before it will shutdown, I may look into running the !wdmaud cli against the current dump I have, (when I get the chance) to see if there is any more info..
     
    wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+0x8f
    wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::Shutdown+0x10
    wdmaud!CMIDISynthTask::MODMClose+0x1e
    wdmaud!SwModMessage+0xb5
    wdmaud!CBusIds::CBusIds+0x2818
    WINMMBASE!midiOutClose+0x9c
     
    PS: To gcolbert, I will definitely try stopping the "Audio Engine", sounds like a good idea...
     
    I'll see if the problem still exists when I finish my day job :)
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/01 18:34:30 (permalink)
    It does not have to be an external device, SONAR is waiting on the interface driver.
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 02:50:16 (permalink)
    I've been able to reproduce this problem everytime by simply...
     
    1. Create New Project
    2. Delete Audio Tracks
    3. Insert Midi Track
    4. Import MIDI File
    5. Drag From the Instruments the Cakewalk TTS_1 to create new Audio Track
    6. Map the Output of the Midi track imported from step 4 to the Cakewalk TTS_1 Audio track
    7. Play
    8. Stop
    9. Click on File Save
    10. File Close
    11. Click on exit
     
    Then load up task manager and find the sonarstd.exe
     
    You can create a dump of the process. Then end the process...
     
    Use windbg(x64) to analyse the dmp that got generated
     

    ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa:
    00007ff9`0e1565ba c3              ret
     
     
    STACK_TEXT:  
    00000000`0013fb48 00007ff9`0b661148 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`0013fb90 00000000`0013fba0 00000000`040ee3e0 : ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
    00000000`0013fb50 00007ff8`f2ab8dbb : 00000000`000000c0 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000508 : KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
    00000000`0013fbf0 00007ff8`f2ab9280 : 00000000`02830990 00000000`02870540 00000000`00000000 00000001`40f6d608 : wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+0x8f
    00000000`0013fc20 00007ff8`f2ab7771 : 00000000`00000000 00007ff9`075a6d76 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::Shutdown+0x10
    00000000`0013fc50 00007ff8`f2ab7aed : 00000000`0013fcc0 00007ff9`05b66338 00000001`00000000 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!CMIDISynthTask::MODMClose+0x1e
    00000000`0013fc80 00007ff8`f2aac2f4 : 00000000`0000000c 00007ff9`00000000 00000000`10cde690 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!SwModMessage+0xb5
    00000000`0013fcb0 00007ff9`075b6cc4 : 00000000`0287d280 00000000`0013fe80 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : wdmaud!CBusIds::CBusIds+0x2818
    00000000`0013fcf0 00000001`403c4426 : 00000000`0287d280 00000000`0013fe80 00000000`00000000 00000001`40f6d608 : WINMMBASE!midiOutClose+0x9c
    00000000`0013fd30 00000001`403c43d4 : 00000000`0287d280 00000000`00000000 00000000`0013fe80 00000001`403c2cb2 : SONARSTD+0x3c4426
    00000000`0013fd70 00000001`403c6334 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`fffffffe 00000000`00000000 : SONARSTD+0x3c43d4
    00000000`0013fda0 00000001`4038748b : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`fffffffe 00000001`411ef220 : SONARSTD+0x3c6334
    00000000`0013fdd0 00000001`405995af : 00000001`411c3510 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`00000006 : SONARSTD+0x38748b
    00000000`0013fe00 00000001`40596ed7 : 00000001`00000001 00000001`00000001 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000001 : SONARSTD+0x5995af
    00000000`0013feb0 00007ff8`ef7bcf4a : 00000000`00000001 00000000`043c4158 00000000`0013fee8 00000000`00000001 : SONARSTD+0x596ed7
    00000000`0013fee0 00000001`404aa6f6 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`0000001f : mfc110u!AfxWinMain+0xa6
    00000000`0013ff20 00007ff9`0b9515cd : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SONARSTD+0x4aa6f6
    00000000`0013ff60 00007ff9`0e1343d1 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
    00000000`0013ff90 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d

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    wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    00007ff8`f2ab8dbb 488b4f10        mov     rcx,qword ptr [rdi+10h]


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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 03:03:06 (permalink)
    I cannot reproduce so from my perspective I suspect it's probably system specific.
     
    (Note Step 11 - To clarify I hit the X top right hand corner to close the app).

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 03:07:29 (permalink)
    I closed the project first and then clicked the X in the top right corner

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 09:35:57 (permalink)
    This really seems to be a driver issue.  Do you have the latest drivers installed for your internal sound card?  It looks like you also have a Scarlett 2i2.  Does this problem happen when you are using the Scarlett for output or just when using your internal card?
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 09:39:29 (permalink)
    JimmyBoy
    I closed the project first and then clicked the X in the top right corner




    Yup step 10 was noted. Environmental issue I suggest.
    Try temporarily turning off your antivirus and stopping services that are not required, and what Glen says.

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 15:41:36 (permalink)
    I Just tried again the same steps, this time using Z3TA+2 as the audio for the output of the midi tracks and have the same problem, and similar finger print of the process dump...
     
    I'll see if I can replicate this on my other PC,  Probably get the chance to try this later in the week.
     
    Here is the wdmaud driver details

    0:000> !lmi wdmaud
    Loaded Module Info: [wdmaud] 
             Module: wdmaud
       Base Address: 00007ff9038e0000
         Image Name: wdmaud.drv
       Machine Type: 34404 (X64)
         Time Stamp: 5215dbdc Thu Aug 22 19:37:32 2013
               Size: 3c000
           CheckSum: 39dfd
    Characteristics: 2022  perf
    Debug Data Dirs: Type  Size     VA  Pointer
                 CODEVIEW    23, 2cb28,   2bf28 RSDS - GUID: {63BD5149-2828-4F20-A000-25FBDF3C325E}
                   Age: 2, Pdb: wdmaud.pdb
                    CLSID     8, 2cb20,   2bf20 [Data not mapped]
         Image Type: MEMORY   - Image read successfully from loaded memory.
        Symbol Type: PDB      - Symbols loaded successfully from image header.
                     C:\ProgramData\dbg\sym\wdmaud.pdb\63BD514928284F20A00025FBDF3C325E2\wdmaud.pdb
        Load Report: public symbols , not source indexed 
                     C:\ProgramData\dbg\sym\wdmaud.pdb\63BD514928284F20A00025FBDF3C325E2\wdmaud.pdb

     
    Here is the latest stack

    ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa:
    00007ff9`0e1565ba c3              ret
     
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    00007ff9`038f8dbb 488b4f10        mov     rcx,qword ptr [rdi+10h]
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  2
    SYMBOL_NAME:  wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    MODULE_NAME: wdmaud
    IMAGE_NAME:  wdmaud.drv
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  5215dbdc
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  STATUS_BREAKPOINT_80000003_wdmaud.drv!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources
    BUCKET_ID:  APPLICATION_FAULT_STATUS_BREAKPOINT_DETOURED_wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    ANALYSIS_SOURCE:  UM
    FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING:  um:status_breakpoint_80000003_wdmaud.drv!cwavrenderer::freeresources
    FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {f3a7a38e-87f6-a176-21b2-387e3e8aa129}
     
    0:000> k
    Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
    00000000`0013fb48 00007ff9`0b661148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
    00000000`0013fb50 00007ff9`038f8dbb KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
    00000000`0013fbf0 00007ff9`038f9280 wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+0x8f
    00000000`0013fc20 00007ff9`038f7771 wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::Shutdown+0x10
    00000000`0013fc50 00007ff9`038f7aed wdmaud!CMIDISynthTask::MODMClose+0x1e
    00000000`0013fc80 00007ff9`038ec2f4 wdmaud!SwModMessage+0xb5
    00000000`0013fcb0 00007ff9`075b6cc4 wdmaud!CBusIds::CBusIds+0x2818
    00000000`0013fcf0 00000001`403c4426 WINMMBASE!midiOutClose+0x9c
    00000000`0013fd30 00000001`403c43d4 SONARSTD+0x3c4426
    00000000`0013fd70 00000001`403c6334 SONARSTD+0x3c43d4
    00000000`0013fda0 00000001`4038748b SONARSTD+0x3c6334
    00000000`0013fdd0 00000001`405995af SONARSTD+0x38748b
    00000000`0013fe00 00000001`40596ed7 SONARSTD+0x5995af
    00000000`0013feb0 00007ff8`ec9acf4a SONARSTD+0x596ed7
    00000000`0013fee0 00000001`404aa6f6 mfc110u!AfxWinMain+0xa6
    00000000`0013ff20 00007ff9`0b9515cd SONARSTD+0x4aa6f6
    00000000`0013ff60 00007ff9`0e1343d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
    00000000`0013ff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 16:11:44 (permalink)
    Yup can't reproduce, BTW I doubt stacks dumps are going to resolve your issue much, this may help if there is a file locking issue: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/bb896645
     
    However please try out what has been suggested earlier first.

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 16:28:03 (permalink)
    Yeah, I'll try procmon - will also try uninstalling and then re-installing Audio driver on notebook

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/05 16:31:11 (permalink)
    To add I would also say disable any antivirus or any debugging tools as that can lock processes first.

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/06 00:32:28 (permalink)
    is it possible ASIO4ALL is hanging up after the project closes ?
    if sonar is using that as your soundcard driver and you exit but it is still running with a project it may cause a hang,
    especially considering ASIO4ALL hasn't had any official updates in years and running windows 8.1 has never been tested with it.
     
    you can try a test by switching your driver mode to MME (only to test) and see if you can reproduce the hang.

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/01/06 06:48:52 (permalink)
    Good point, though just tried it, changed ASIO for MME, played then saved and closed and it does the same thing...
    I might hit the MS Folks on this one and see what they suggest - I'm thinking uninstall audio driver and re-install it..
     

    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    00007ff8`fb7c8dbb 488b4f10        mov     rcx,qword ptr [rdi+10h]
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  2
    SYMBOL_NAME:  wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    MODULE_NAME: wdmaud
    IMAGE_NAME:  wdmaud.drv
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  5215dbdc
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  STATUS_BREAKPOINT_80000003_wdmaud.drv!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources
    BUCKET_ID:  APPLICATION_FAULT_STATUS_BREAKPOINT_DETOURED_wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+8f
    ANALYSIS_SOURCE:  UM
    FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING:  um:status_breakpoint_80000003_wdmaud.drv!cwavrenderer::freeresources
    FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {f3a7a38e-87f6-a176-21b2-387e3e8aa129}
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    0:000> k
    Child-SP          RetAddr           Call Site
    00000000`0013fb48 00007ff9`0b661148 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xa
    00000000`0013fb50 00007ff8`fb7c8dbb KERNELBASE!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x94
    00000000`0013fbf0 00007ff8`fb7c9280 wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::FreeResources+0x8f
    00000000`0013fc20 00007ff8`fb7c7771 wdmaud!CWAVRenderer::Shutdown+0x10
    00000000`0013fc50 00007ff8`fb7c7aed wdmaud!CMIDISynthTask::MODMClose+0x1e
    00000000`0013fc80 00007ff8`fb7bc2f4 wdmaud!SwModMessage+0xb5
    00000000`0013fcb0 00007ff9`075b6cc4 wdmaud!CBusIds::CBusIds+0x2818
    00000000`0013fcf0 00000001`403c4426 WINMMBASE!midiOutClose+0x9c
    00000000`0013fd30 00000001`403c43d4 SONARSTD+0x3c4426
    00000000`0013fd70 00000001`403c6334 SONARSTD+0x3c43d4
    00000000`0013fda0 00000001`4038748b SONARSTD+0x3c6334
    00000000`0013fdd0 00000001`405995af SONARSTD+0x38748b
    00000000`0013fe00 00000001`40596ed7 SONARSTD+0x5995af
    00000000`0013feb0 00007ff8`ec9acf4a SONARSTD+0x596ed7
    00000000`0013fee0 00000001`404aa6f6 mfc110u!AfxWinMain+0xa6
    00000000`0013ff20 00007ff9`0b9515cd SONARSTD+0x4aa6f6
    00000000`0013ff60 00007ff9`0e1343d1 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0xd
    00000000`0013ff90 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x1d


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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 16:10:11 (permalink)
    Hi
     
    I'm just learning X3 Studio.  I have the same issue with Sonar continuing to run in the background after I exit it unless I exit via the Task Manager.  Just emailed tech support and they have no answers.  This happens for me no matter what I use for drivers or even if I don't have a device connected.  All I have to do is open a project, old or new and try to exit through the File menu or X in the upper right screen.  The only thing I don't like about this is that in this way, you're not asked if you want to save your changes.  I guess it's a bug they have to fix.
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 16:42:43 (permalink)
    Try updating, they just released a new version of ASIO4ALL actually.
     
     

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 16:54:13 (permalink)
    Old thread alert. John I suggest a new thread and not ASIO4ALL. Ta

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 17:33:21 (permalink)
    It sounds like you may have 32-bit plugins loaded into a 64-bit Sonar project.
     
    This causes a piece of bridging software, called BitBridge, to get loaded, and sometimes this continues to hang out in memory for a while after exiting Sonar, and may leave Sonar in memory too, if memory serves.
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 18:34:53 (permalink)
    Whoah good catch Alex! I read that whole darned thing and just piled on. Sorry!

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 19:33:40 (permalink)
    My reply was to the 3-hour old post by jJohnbee58, not to the OP.
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 19:53:13 (permalink)
    Go into the control panel and try disabling and re-enabling your sound card driver. That may allow Sonar to close.
     
    If this works, make a shortcut on your desktop so you can get to it easier. 
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/10 20:13:54 (permalink)
    Confusion every time LOL .

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/11 06:49:38 (permalink)
    IN MY CASE - Re-installing ASIO4All fixed this problem. IF You have asio4all Try uninstalling it and then re-install it.
     
    if you know how, dump the process and run a windows debugging session over it and see if the stack looks similar to mine
     
     
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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/11 11:20:58 (permalink)
    Another reason why you shouldn't piggy back on a thread. The new poster hasn't stated they are running ASIO4ALL at all. Hopefully they have avoided it. I'm worried they may end up installing it in the confusion.

    Please can the new poster start a new thread before more confusion spreads, this sort of thing needs to be troubleshooted on a person by person basis.... Thanks...(BTW Bob has the best suggestion so far).
    post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/07/11 17:05:21

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    Re: sonarstd.exe still runs after I close and exit program 2014/07/11 11:36:37 (permalink)
    Yea, sometimes SONAR midi shows up in the taskbar/hidden icons.  I can restart SONAR when it doesn't shut down properly, then close it, and problem is solved. 

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