JohnKenn
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rock and roll for plants
Gentlemen, Thought this might be okay for a new thread as a spinoff from the 19 best DAW conversation. Far out in left field enough for a good laugh about hair-brained ignorance, until you try it and get a chill down your spine. The concept is mind blowing. This is about music, but music for plants. Another audience waiting to hear your new tunes. Bit was mentioning in another thread about Adobe Audition and what it went through going south. They screwed up one of the visionary programs of our time. Newer versions take out functions that were used by the fringe for more esoteric applications. Like Bit said, it was a masacre by Adobe to get something to fill the suite aimed at video processing. Audio production users could fry in the pit. This knowledge is not my invention, but the concept and application can be harnessed for this left field application with older versions of Audition or Cool Edit Pro. Credit goes to a Dan Carleson for discovering this miracle. Long time ago, the good moral hell bound heathen christian woke up to a prophetic vision. Adam and Eve dancing around naked in the garden. Sunrise over Eden and the birds singing in bliss. The trees responding to the chorus. He was convinced that there was a link across all life (almost too progressive for our local primitive religion). This started years of research to find the resonance key of the vision until the code was broken. He succeeded big time. Can share some of the boring science stuff if anyone is interested in biologic verification and trivia, but Dan found a resonance of sine waves, around 3-5 Hz that induced increased metabolism and growth of plants. Was introduced to this decades ago. Lived next door to Bit in Everett Washington though never met the renegade. Worked as an aircraft mechanic with Boeing. Me and the wife loved indoor plants and had access to the latest crop of vegetation from the Fred Meyer chain on the east side of the Boeing facility. Problem was they doped the plants up with hormones to survive the transport, temperature shock. You bought a new plant. It was healthy for about a week and then died. These jerks knew what you would end up with, but made a quick dollar at your expense. Friend told me to apply the sonic growth stimulation audio files, and I had a laugh at the absurdity. Tried it anyway. Immediate results were that the plants were no longer falling dead after a week, and seemed to be growing faster and more vibrant. Long story short, my observations were bordeline qualitative, no numbers to back anything up. Was able to engineer a clinical objective test at Everett Community College up there in Washington. Staff and scientists were mind blown to silence when we proved that there was significant action at a distance influincing plant growth and health. Playing wave files to plants. The data and approach goes much deeper. Will follow up with more info as to how you can pull this off. If you don't have Audition and want to experiment with this, can post waves from Audition you can loop and put on an audio CD. Play to your tomatoe plants and judge for yourself.. John
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JohnKenn
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/28 19:10:00
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Guys, Here's the instructions how to induce plant growth with audio waves. If one of you looks at the plant in your window and gets a buzz thinking about this mystical connection, I done my job for all the flack I'm likely to get for even suggesting this. Have to have Cool Edit or up to Audition 3 to do this. There are still versions of the old shareware Cool Edit floating around the web that allow you to use the signal generator. From any of the programs, from the toolbar at top, Generate > Tones Set the duration for 900 seconds or more, giving the recommended 15 minute treatment. Other parameters are not carved in stone, but this is a starting point you can try. Set the Base Frequency to 5000 hz. Modulate By to 500 hz. Modulation Frequency to 4.2 hz. Hit Okay and done... Save the wave and burn to an audio CD. Play loud to the plants with the hi's turned up once or twice a day for 15 minutes or so. The lovely home version of the commercial software has the waves in back of various classical and pop instrumentals. Plants don't give a fork about “Morning Has Broken” or the other elevator Musac hits. The home version was more aimed at consumption by new age housewives. Commercial food production on farms use the pure wave forms blasting crops from boom boxes on tractors. This technology is more than the iceberg tip, but only half of the revelation. Will post what the other part of the equation is. Was a top proprietary secret until I found out what was going on totally by mistake, fate whatever. Forking brilliant discovery...Don't think I will be violating any copyright laws if I post the general principle. Anyone wanting to experiment is smart enough to carry the principle forward. Will also post an mp3 of the plant stimulant in case you want to try it out but don't have Audition or can't find Cool Edit. John
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JohnKenn
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/28 20:22:09
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Here's an mp3 of the sonic plant stimulant. Would recommend you eventually roll your own thru experimentation, taking inspired end product control into your own hands. Trial and error using the generators in Cool Edit or Adobe. Maybe come back with a better preset to share than this one. Got to be some room to improve the concept even more. http://www.swoopshare.com/file/c60b4a94c0c973356f6bbc4ac9e0cf50/Plant.mp3.html Crashing out now, but want to post for public evaluation the second half of a revolutionary package on music to plants. Requires some precise weighing and mixing of a plant growth formula you can do over the kitchen sink, available from local sources or at least over the internet. Absolutely brilliant discovery and was likely the most time consuming journey of Deva Dan's vision to perfect the gift. Took decades, but we got the blueprint. It does not get much better than this either philosophically or in the crude soil under our feet. John
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/28 22:01:55
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Grem
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/29 07:47:48
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I have a plant in mind John. Will try this out and let you know.
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/29 09:40:52
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Grem I have a plant in mind John. Will try this out and let you know.
I'm assuming you are talking about. ;) tomatoes
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/29 09:51:14
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Btw, generate tones was brought back to Audition after being missing for cs 5.5. What I believe was left out permanently was the binaural wave generation.
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JohnKenn
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/29 22:26:54
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That was a good move. The binaural brain wave stimulator was useless except for maybe inspiring some to look for better introspective methods.
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JohnKenn
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/29 22:32:36
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The dev who developed the sonic plant growth system after a religious vision got the bird and plant interaction down to a workable product. He claimed that the vibrations increased plant growth and metabolism opening the stoma on the bottom of the leaves. Plant takes in CO2 to light the cellular machinery and loses water as a collateral damage. The water loss is interesting as it is inefficient for the plant but helps the balance of the ecosystem. It was this transpiration rate change that we measured in the labs that vindicated what sounded on the surface to be a fake and ignorant claim. Play music to the plants? Yeah, right… The dev was some kind of plant scientist and started experimenting with advanced nutrients to combine with the sound waves. Another visionary discovery, a super nutrient mix that further accelerated growth and yield. Claiming a 700% increase in production when combined. The growth medium is not poured on the soil, but a “foliar feeding” where the plants are played the wave files for 15 minutes and then the nutrient sprayed on the underside of the leaves. Talked with him about 20 years ago and asked him about the nutrient. I could already replicate the waves with Cool Edit, but what was in the plant food. Refused to reveal anything. It was a secret. Universe must have wanted me to know, because discovered what was in the mix totally by chance. I got a chill at the pure brilliance of the compound. Would be not right to post his formula on the internet since he wants it to remain secret, but the principle is profound and the intent can be easily repeated using some readily available chemicals and a precise weighing or measuring device. Will get back with how you can pull this off inexpensive. Got to go over some of my old notes. John
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Grem
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 02:09:36
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dubdisciple
I'm assuming you are talking about. ;) tomatoes
African Violet actually! I bought several from Lowes in the discount section. They looked bad then. They made somewhat of a comeback. But now aren't looking good. I haven't grown that type of tomato in a while! 😁
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 02:18:51
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So African Violet is what they are calling it these days! JK. It's interesting being in a state where such things are legal. I did a shoot where the client made "medical slurpees"
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 05:12:21
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 07:29:59
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My tomatoes must have simpler needs, because they seem content with sunshine, water and an occasional treat of MiracleGro. Now I feel kinda bad about chopping them down, hanging them upside-down, and eventually setting them on fire. But summer's done and so are they. Maybe I'll play them some music while I do the deed. I know music will be involved during the burn phase.
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 08:34:23
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 11:41:00
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 11:43:11
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2014/09/30 11:39:24
I had to go eat a burger, after reading all these plant posts.... hee hee Bob Bone
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JohnKenn
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Re: rock and roll for plants
2014/09/30 15:50:45
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Getting a grip on the new rules. From the handbook: "Only products that are musical in nature or compliment Cakewalk products are allowed" Which the pending biology/chemistry roadmap ain't, so will cease and desist on this one while I'm ahead. One of the most critical discoveries of the last century. Issue itself is not dead for those who might still be interested in some high power experimentation. Will lay out the second half of the process some other time maybe in the Cofee House or whatever it is called. Bob, hope that burger was good. John
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