Bjork vs NIN

RE: Bjork vs NIN (jacktheexcynic)

Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:04:20 GMT

a guy by the name of michael card got me into composing music, he was basically the first artist i could get away with listening to in my rather conservative christian home. "jars of clay" got me to play guitar. "caedmon's call" probably shaped my current musical style more than any other band, although i have to give a nod to:

soundgarden
audioslave
the normals
collective soul
dave matthews band

my current musical inspiration/influences:

led zepplin (who invented pretty much everything)
ryan adams
derek webb (formely of caedmon's call)

it's a short list, but i'm a music snob... =) i'm probably missing out on a lot but then i don't really get floyd or the beatles. my next music binge will probably involve a lot of blues.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Clydewinder)

Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:04:01 GMT

Rush, Zappa, Yes, Thin Lizzy, Tony Carey, Hawkwind, Bad Company/Paul Rogers, April Wine, Popa Chubby

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Lunacy)

Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:47:08 GMT

for me it depends what i'm playing, for my acoustic stuff my biggest influence has been elliott smith (rip). for the heavy stuff it's the pumpkins and nin, i've also been heavily influenced by team sleep when it comes to more experimental stuff

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Spaceduck)

Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:34:33 GMT

Since I (try to!) play different instruments, I'm influenced by individual players more than bands. So I'll list the cats who taught me the most:

Drums: Bill Bruford, Phil Collins, Bonzo
Guitar: (I don't play guitar " />)
Piano: Chopin
Cello: Steve Howe. Yes, Steve Howe. I try to play the cello the way he plays guitar.
Vocals: Freddy Mercury, ABBA, Darryl Hall, Peter Gabriel

As far as bands go, I gotta agree with what's been posted: Jellyfish was an amazing ensemble! Sort of a mix of Queen & the Partridge Family. Also I was pretty heavily influenced by Portishead which is an excellent example of how to break all the rules in a controlled fashion (I'm sure Bjork fans would love them).

RE: Bjork vs NIN (pharohoknaughty)

Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:20:33 GMT

Miles Davis

Coltrane

Charlie Parker

King Pleasure

Otis Redding

Chuck NIles

Marvin Gaye

Bob Dylan

Bunny Berigan

Carlos Di Soli

Carlos Gardel

Stevie Wonder

Albert King

Jeff Beck

Rob Zombie

Zappa

Tom Waits

Norman Whitfield http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Whitfield

Smoky Robinson

Thee Midnighters

Wolfman Jack

The Meters

Booker T and the MGs

King Sunny Ade

Al Green

Ministry

The Dickies

The Ventures

Martin Rushant

Chin and Chapman, Sweet, Mud, Suzi Quatro

Gary Glitter, Mike Leander

Ramstein

T Rex

Jimmy Smith

Of Course Duke Elington, Count Basie, Arti Shaw, Stan Kenton

Sir Mix a Lot

Jay Z

Dan the Automator

Kraftwerk

(I could go on, but its late)

RE: Bjork vs NIN (DreamzCatcher)

Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:35:39 GMT

Danni Elfman

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Blades)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:01:34 GMT

Hey Psonicspot - did you ever hear the alter-ego band of XTC called "The dukes of Stratosphere"? Their second elbum was called "Psonic Psunspot", though it can more usually be found on the compilation of thier two CDs called "Chips from the Chocolate Fireball".

RE: Bjork vs NIN (psonicspot)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:12:33 GMT

Jellyfish was the band that got me back into powerpop in the early 90's. Both "Bellybutton" and "Spilt Milk" are "must-haves" in my book. The production is inventive (they used ex-Bee Gees producer Albhy Galuten on both) and crystal clear. These albums started a wave of new powerpop bands that continue to this day. Check out the Audities mailing list if you're interested in this type of music.

ORIGINAL: droddey

Jellyfish,

I've only got one Jellyfish CD, Bellybutton, but it's something that I really feel is in the style that I most naturally feel inspired to do, though so far I've done nothing actually like that. I love that type of music, which to me is something like what The Beatles would have done if they had appeared in the 90's instead of the 50s.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (munmun)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:10:12 GMT

The Who, The Police, The Beatles, Springsteen.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (psonicspot)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:03:52 GMT

Blades,

You should (and everybody else here) check out Lewis Taylor's "The Lost Album". I believe he recorded it as his second release in the late 90's and the record company turned it down. He ended up releasing it last year on his own. It's amazing stuff. If you didn't know it, you'd think it was made in the early/mid 70's - fresh off the AM dial. It sounds like the result of a Marvin Gaye / Brian Wilson collaboration - it's that good. It reeks of beautiful shimmering background vocal harmonies and catchy hooks.

I, too, am not ashamed to admit i love the old bubblegum stuff. I still have a lot of the old Buddha 45's.

IMHO, there's not much that comes close to late 60's/70's music. The creativity and inspiration behind that music just astounds me. It's timeless stuff.

ORIGINAL: Blades

In no particular order:
Queen, and each of its members that have solo work
XTC
Jellyfish, members solo, spinoffs, the Tories, the Grays, Taxi Ride, PFR, etc
Some early 70s Powerpop, like 1910 Fruitgum/Buddha records kinda stuff, Bay City Rollers, etc
Kevin Gilbert and anything he was involved in

RE: Bjork vs NIN (artsoul)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:48:25 GMT

ognis i think you would LOVE the band "65 days of static" if you havent heard them

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RE: Bjork vs NIN (artsoul)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:47:14 GMT

Everything-------- Sly stone, George Clinton, Shakti, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Jimi Hendrix, LCD Soundsystem, Leftfield, Company Flow, Steve Vai, Tom Waits, Staples Singers, FSOL, Baader Meinhof, Chic, JS Bach, Debussy, Erik Satie, Public Enemy, David Bowie, The Clash, Gram Parsons, Nitin Sawhney, King Tubby, Jeff Beck, Sun Ra, Beck, Dead Kennedys, 65 Days of Static, The Who, The Stooges, The Pouges, Karen Isacsson, Motorhead, Slayer, King Crimson, Dr. John, Primal Scream, Stevie Wonder, Goldie, Nicolo Pagannini, Otis Redding, Dark star, Roy Buchanan, Buckethead, Jaco Pastorious, Bill Hicks, Talk Talk, The Wailers, Wu-Tang, Black Star Liner, Led Zeppelin, Janes Addiction, Marvin Gaye, The Beatles, Steely Dan, Curtis Mayfield, Chemical Brothers, Praxis, Steve Martland, Asian Dub Foundation, Ruby, Jeff Buckley, Tricky, Sonny Rollins, PIL, Herbie Hancock, Frank Zappa, Ani DeFranco, Smetana

that is only a part as well

I'm really liking goose and bach at the mo

Andy
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RE: Bjork vs NIN (keith)

Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:45:46 GMT

ORIGINAL: gtrman100
... Boxcar Willie, Tiny Tim, the Partridge Family, the the bat that Ozzie bit it's head off...

You mean the one that he got rabies from? I love that bat!!! Speaking of partridges, I believe O's first head-biting was that of a dove whilst in a meeting with record executives. Now if he could have only bit the head off of David and Sean Cassidy....

Speaking of Sean Cassidy... my first concert was a Sean Cassidy concert. I was like 9, and was dragged along because my 11 year old sister just had to see Sean Cassidy. I found 7 dollars wadded up on the amphitheatre floor. It turned out to be a good night after all. However, Sean Cassidy has most definately not been one of my influences (that I'm aware of).

RE: Bjork vs NIN (gtrman100)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:47:37 GMT

... Boxcar Willie, Tiny Tim, the Partridge Family, the the bat that Ozzie bit it's head off...

Does anybody really read this stuff top to bottom??

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Rev. Jem)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:31:43 GMT

ORIGINAL: Blades
maybe the most useless and annoying post/series of posts to be up here in a while.

Agreed. I wondered if his was a serious question or just an opportunity to show us how large his hard drive is.

As for my influences, my music speaks for itself: Haircut 100 (less about the style, more about the crappiness).

In reality, it's most likely to be Zep & Roy Harper.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Blades)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:02:29 GMT

You should check out "Split Milk" for a huge production - it was the only other CD they did, unfortunately. For some more great melody and harmony ispired music, check out the Solo effort by Roger Joseph Manning Jr, who was keyboardist and second writer for Jellyfish.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (droddey)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:09:44 GMT

Jellyfish,

I've only got one Jellyfish CD, Bellybutton, but it's something that I really feel is in the style that I most naturally feel inspired to do, though so far I've done nothing actually like that. I love that type of music, which to me is something like what The Beatles would have done if they had appeared in the 90's instead of the 50s.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Ognis)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:26:54 GMT

ORIGINAL: Blades

Wow Ognis - If you don't qualify with number of POSTS, you probably get the prize for the most number LINES!

Now offence, but maybe the most useless and annoying post/series of posts to be up here in a while. I hope someone doesn't start quoting the whole thing. You may as well have just printed the entire catalog of Rock music from Amazon, as I doubt anyone actually went through our whole list to see what's in common between you and them.

Nonetheless, it's a public forum, so if you want to simply proclaim that this is the music that you own, I suppose that's your right...regardless of how pointless it may be! " />

Funny. It's labor day weekend, what can i say.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Blades)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:23:14 GMT

Oh yeah - so I guess I should put down my influences. the wierd thing about these is that they are what I listened to growing up, or as an adult, but they are music I like - and in some cases, they are bands I don't really listen to that much anymore. The music that I write doesn't sound much like any of them, or really that much an amalgamation - though I often do cover songs and I don't do a lot to begin with. In fact, I don't really even know what I sound like. I know I will intentionally start a tune out saying something like "I'm going to write something that sounds like blah blah", and then I start and it winds up not even in the same vein! That's when I can get past a riff or two and then 45 minutes of just screwing around on the drums!

In no particular order:
Queen, and each of its members that have solo work
XTC
Jellyfish, members solo, spinoffs, the Tories, the Grays, Taxi Ride, PFR, etc
Some early 70s Powerpop, like 1910 Fruitgum/Buddha records kinda stuff, Bay City Rollers, etc
Kevin Gilbert and anything he was involved in

There's obviously a huge additional list of this or that. I have heard a LOT of music in my life of all sorts. These are the ones that I think I continue to go back to, not for nostalgia, but for inspiration (except maybe for the 70s powerpop stuff " />)

RE: Bjork vs NIN (pgw)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:07:33 GMT

ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic

Judas Priest, and within that group was my 2 guitar heroes; Glen tipton and KK Downing.
Cj

TreÂ´s sympatico!
They were big influences for me too, for a couple of years, I give their vinyls a spin now & then, the real JP-fan in the family is my cousin though, he has all their records + most of them in different versions. I made a rough approximation once, he had about 50 - 60 12":s LP:s, maxiÂ´s etc.

My top fifteen would probably be, in no particular order:

Jeff Beck ( always re-inventing guitar )
Thin Lizzy ( Brian Robertson, Scott Gorham, John Sykes eras especially )
Stevie Ray Vaughan ( raw power )
Nick Lowe ( pure pop-genius )
Dave Edmunds
Ducks DeLuxe
Jimi Hendrix
John Hiatt
Fabulous Thunderbirds ( probably the best live-act IÂ´ve seen )
Danny Gatton
ABBA
Grandma ( at 70 she still had perfect pitch )
Homer & Jethro
Povel Ramel ( incredibly productive & fun )
Kate Bush

Not so appreciated influences, i.e. what I decided was bad taste or just boring at the time :
Milli Vanilli
Vanilla Ice
Euro-disco ( the genre )
Britney Spears
Exploited
MÃ¶tley Crue
Poison
Mariah Carey ( an incredible voice, but boring beyond belief IMO )

Anyway, IÂ´m probably just as influenced by the ones I dislike as by my favourites - basically I prefer music with tough guitars & a little virtuosity.

Hey Ognis , considering your Syd Barret-influence, what about Punk Floyd ? here, here & here " />" />" />" />

RE: Bjork vs NIN (gcurrie)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:53:01 GMT

In chronological order:

The Beatles
Jimi Hendrix
Yes
Joni Mitchell
Peter Gabriel
Pat Metheny
Weather Report
Bruce Cockburn
Allan Holdsworth
Michael Hedges
Bela Fleck
Alison Krauss

RE: Bjork vs NIN (DW_Mike)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:48:03 GMT

ORIGINAL: droddey

Embarrasing as it is, the thing that made me start playing guitar was Kiss <ha,ha>.

" /> I feel your pain. The thing that made me start playing drums was when I got Kiss Alive at the age of 8 and heard 100,000 years. Killer then but not so much now.

Mike

RE: Bjork vs NIN (...wicked)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:36:35 GMT

I have to agree, you don't have the faintest inkling that I'm gonna go read that TEN THOUSAND entry series of posts do you? " />

But answering your original question, about artists influencing your work, it's kind of crazy to attach it to a specific person. Give me two weeks and I'll have to an edit anyway since I'm listening to stuff a lot, often to specifically get influenced by them.

I remember having a Britney Spears disc going around and having a friend call me out on it. I said "hey, she works with the best dance producers in the world... I'm learning things just by listening to it."

I often am writing a track and say "hm, a Tool-esque part would work great here..." and then out comes the Tool cds.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Blades)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:15:58 GMT

Wow Ognis - If you don't qualify with number of POSTS, you probably get the prize for the most number LINES!

Now offence, but maybe the most useless and annoying post/series of posts to be up here in a while. I hope someone doesn't start quoting the whole thing. You may as well have just printed the entire catalog of Rock music from Amazon, as I doubt anyone actually went through our whole list to see what's in common between you and them.

Nonetheless, it's a public forum, so if you want to simply proclaim that this is the music that you own, I suppose that's your right...regardless of how pointless it may be! " />

RE: Bjork vs NIN (tarsier)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:45:45 GMT

ORIGINAL: D K
You boys need to get some funk in ya life " />" />

Maybe a little Parliament or some James Brown perhaps " />" />" />

Absolutely! My band opened for James Brown in '97, and we got to watch him rehearse the band. That was some schoolin right there. After the gig we got to hang out with the band, and the ones who weren't all coked up were really cool. Sweets Sherrell actually said we were funky.

Yeah, all the ones mentioned so far (Tool, SOAD, Zep, King Crimson, Yes...)

So, Parliament/George Clinton/Maceo/Bootsy. Absolutely.

And Bach, Beethoven and Buxtehude (the 3 B's!) Chopin, Liszt, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Richard Wagner.

Roy Clark, Buck Trent.

Journey, Bowie, Blondie, Genesis, Abba... on and on and on.

Benny Goodman, Lionel Hampton, Gene Krupa, Stan Kenton, Anita O'day

Philip Glass, Steve Reich (I did live sound for a concert of his... that's a story in and of itself)

The list is too huge, really. It includes anything I ever listened to and liked.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Duojet)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:03:37 GMT

Floyd, zeppelin, beatles, cream, elo, queen, AC/DC, cheap trick, boston, elton john, cat stevens, the cure, depeche mode, many more...

RE: Bjork vs NIN (yorolpal)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:57:59 GMT

Fab Four, Ray Charles, Elton John, Bill Evans, George Clinton.

RE: Bjork vs NIN (G7Sharp9)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:40:26 GMT

Take 6 " />

RE: Bjork vs NIN (Rain)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:14:40 GMT

Elvis Presley (as a kid, when people would ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I'd tell them I'd be Elvis...) Got my first guitar because of him...

John Lennon and the Beatles (songwriting 101)
Black Sabbath and Ozzy (Rhoads is the reason I picked up the electric guitar and decided to study classical music)
Syd Barrett
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
The Cure
Faith No More and most of Mike Patton's other projects
Trent Reznor/NIN
Die Form

RE: Bjork vs NIN (keith)

Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:08:05 GMT

ORIGINAL: psonicspot
I highly doubt Glenn Tipton ever played in Bolton's metal back-up band.

You could be right. That would make it even sadder. Dad could only give me the band name and I was left to pry the hair color and connect the dots. (What color was his hair?! DAMMIT, OLD MAN, WHAT COLOR WAS HIS HAIR?!?!) Would have been one of those one-time bar gigs if it's true. At this point we have an unconfirmed Glenn Tipton sighting.