"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem - UPDATED Mix 11/22

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:58:12 GMT

CreatingNoise: Hey, Tony, how are you, buudy? Thanks for giving this a re-check and for your comments and suggestions!

Yep, I just mentioned above, that I'm going to try just a little bit more high-end EQ surgery on the guitar tracks, but, I think you're correct about being right around the point of diminishing return, where I may start losing some of the "fatness". But, you know me, I'm never against a little more tweaking to squeeze out a little more juice from a track to see what happens! " />

Thanks again for the second listen, and have a good one!
Bob
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Tap: Hey, James, it's really great to hear from you! Thanks for the listen and for your comments!

It's always good to hear from a fellow Keystone State musician! Have a great night, my friend!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:36:10 GMT

ohgrant: Hey, Grant, thanks, buddy, I really appreciate your comments!

By the way, great job on the lead guitar parts for the new Coffee House Band project!

Have a good one!
Bob
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feedback50: Hi, Rick, thank you for giving this a listen, and for your well thought out and and very helpful suggestions!

I think I may try to peel back another layer of high end with some more EQ work on the rhythm guitar tracks, as per your suggestion. On the chorus vocal parts, I was shooting for an 80's style "Gang Vocal", so I intentionally went a little heavy with the ambient effects, but, I do think I will try to reign in the pan width during the verses a bit. You're correct about the current panning, I have the harmony part panned about 70 percent to the right. I thought it seemed to work for a sort of "isolated" feel that I was going for in the second verse, but I will experiment with a narrowed width to see if it works.

Thanks again for your observations and comments.
Have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Tap)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:09:07 GMT

Tune Kicks...... I may have to come up to Scranton and ... Rock Tonight !!!!

-TAP-

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem - UPDATED Mix 11/22 (CreatingNoise)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:04:22 GMT

Bob,
This mix does sound better to me. The highs are tamed a bit more now. I have to agree with Feedback50 above that you may have hit the happy medium on this mix with respect to the high end. Much more taming on the highs might have ill effects elsewhere. I read an article somewhere and the writer was saying that when recording distorted guitars, the gain should be about 25% lower than what you would use live. That might help the high end some going into the recording. I feel certain you have several guitar tracks so you probably wouldn't lose anything in the heaviness of the guitars just that top end.

But you know what? It doesn't matter too much cause I still dig this tune! It freakin rocks.

Keep it on 11!!!!

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (feedback50)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:52 GMT

Really good. Here's what I hear on first listen (after that any song starts sounding pretty normal and you loose your sensitivity to things being a tiny bit out of place). The rhythm guitars might be a touch on the bright side. It's hard to say if this is the actual eq of the track or the type of distortion used. With big guitar rhythm tracks it's always a fine line between keeping the attacks bright enough to have impact (so they leverage the wide panning), and not eating up the entire top end. (Honestly, it's pretty good the way it is, but it struck me as a tad bright). I think leaving a bit more top end available in the mix for the vocal might help. (I know when anyone comments on a guitar player's tone you can be stepping on thin ice, but in-the-mix you sometimes need to compromise now and then.)

The panning on the backing vocal might be a bit wide for this mix (I hear it as wide right channel). It's a bit tough to tell. I think I might be hearing a third (high) harmony on the third line but it could be an illusion. Mostly I'm picking up the lower harmony though. I wrestle with backing vocal panning myself. There seems to be some magic point where if they are more centered they nearly dissappear and you loose the impact of the stereo image, and if are wider you start loosing the implied chord (blend?) that makes them function as a single instrument in the mix.

No criticism of the guitar solo (the guitar work in general is killer). There might be an opportunity to put more tonal contrast between the rhythm guitars and the lead to have it stand out a bit more, but it's sits pretty well as it is.

The vocal after the guitar solo (starting at 2:13) is where I really start picking up the wide pan of the harmony vocal. I would at least move it more central for this part of the song. (if it were 3 parts I might leave it wide panned). I think another thing that makes it stick out more is that it seems as though the vocal processing in general on the chorus is different than the verse (slightly phasey with more ambience I think).

Great work!

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (ohgrant)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:21:45 GMT

Love it!! This really delivers!!

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:32:39 GMT

Slow Marching Band: Hi, Larry, thanks so much for listening and for your input! I'm so happy that you and James are back on the forum and I'm looking forward to hearing more of your new music. Once again, sincere congratulations on the new CD!

Thanks again, and welcome back!
Bob
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Beagle: Hi, Reece, how are you? Having a dynamite weekend, I hope!

Thanks so much for checking this song out for me, and for your very encouraging words, I truly value your opinion and advice!

Yeah, I was sort of going for an 80's "gang vocal" on the chorus sections on this and may have overdone the effect a bit. I just backed it off a slight touch on this first remix (11/22/09), as well as the other changes mentioned above.

Thanks again for the listen and comments, I really appreciate your input.
Have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:12:07 GMT

rollin: Hey, R, thanks for the listen and comments, I do appreciate it!

Have a great weekend!
Bob
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z1812: Hi, John, thanks very much, I truly appreciate you taking time to give this a listen and also your nice comment! That's what makes this forum so great, the input and opinions of other musicians and songwriters.

Thanks again, and have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:01:27 GMT

batsbrew: Hey, Bat, thanks for checking this out and for your comments and suggestions!

I just posted a new mix utilizing some of your sugestions, as well as some from the earlier posters in the thread. I rolled off some highs on the rhythm guitar bus, gave the bass guitar about another half a Db, and beefed up the kick and snare with a little EQ. If you get a chance let me know what you think.

Thanks again, I really appreciate your helpful input!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Beagle)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:20:29 GMT

Hey, Bob! I haven't read all of the responses, but just had to say that I love this! your stuff is always top notch.

you're probably wanting this sound on the vox, but I'm not fond of the processing on them myself. just a personal preference.

guitar work is outstanding as usual from you!

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Slow Marching Band)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:06:56 GMT

Oh man..it's been too long since I heard a Bob Oister tune..this is fantastic! Got my right knee bobbing up and down, head nodding, I might even make the 'Devil's Horn' sign if I'm not careful. " />" />

Great stuff Bob, you rawk!

I have a recommendation for you - check out a UK band called Thunder if you don't know them already, I think you'd enjoy them.

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (z1812)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:05:02 GMT

Hi Bob,

Very professional. Excellent work. I really enjoyed the guitar work.

Regards John

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (rollin)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:40:42 GMT

excellent rock tune, good job.

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (batsbrew)

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:27:04 GMT

rock on!
ok, this has 80's hair all over it.
everything is well played, well sung, and in the pocket.
nice solo work, very tasty.

the guitar tone is too hairy for me tho..
or, at least, is very fizzy on the high end.
not the solos so much, but the rhythm guitar.

this reminds me a lot of early scorpions, were they an influence?

don't dig the chorus/phase on the vocals, any chance of hearing a mix with the vox unaffected?
i don't think you need that effect, your voice sounds fine, and these kinds of effects are very 'dating'.

mix wise, i'd love to hear the bass a bit louder, a bit deeper. the snare needs a bit more pop to it....
overall, the final mix has a bit too much treble sheen to it, and sounds a bit scooped thru the mids.

but rockin', it is!

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (robby)

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:39:27 GMT

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:39:33 GMT

Guitarhacker: Hi, Herb, what's up buddy? Hope you're doing great!

Thanks for giving this a listen and for commenting, I appreciate it very much!

Thank again, and have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Guitarhacker)

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:03:39 GMT

The guitars sounded like razors on the lappy speakers...so I popped on some headphones...... yeah...that's what I'm talkin bout......

Straight ahead rock & roll...sounds good.

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:03:59 GMT

marcos69: Hey, Mark, thanks for giving it a listen and for your encouraging comments!

We think alike. I originally had the guitar outro twice as long, and then I second guessed myself and cut it in half to get the song down to around 3 1/2 minutes. " />

Thanks again, I always trust your input and appreciate it greatly!

Have a good one!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (marcos69)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:27:08 GMT

Way to go Oistermeister. Felt like I was at a concert. I really like the guitar outro. I think maybe it fades out just a bit to quickly though.

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:33:06 GMT

cryophonik: Hey, Dave, thanks, buddy! I think I recognize that guy in the picture from one of the biker bars that my cover band plays at! " />

Have a rockin' weekend!
Bob
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No How: Hi, Rick, thanks for checking it out and for your kind comments! I always really appreciate your opinion!

Have a good one!
Bob
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SteveStrummerUK: Hey, Steve, how are things, my friend? Hope your doing great!

Thanks for giving this a listen and for your comments, I always, truly look forward to, and really value your input! Especially because you and I seem to have similar tastes in metal bands and guitar tones. " />

Thanks again, brother, and have a kick-butt weekend!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (SteveStrummerUK)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:48:36 GMT

Hey there Bob

This is just stunningly awesome " />

Massive tone on the guitars, and I love the 'Judas Priest' type intro btw!

Excellent " />

Steve

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (No How)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:42 GMT

Bob,

This is a blast. I think it's your best to date. I love the intro/outro, the verses are concise and chords are cool, Refrain is awesome.
I really enjoyed this.

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (cryophonik)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:14:24 GMT

Killer!!! This song would make even make Dubya rock out!

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:05:43 GMT

karalie7: Hi, Karalie, thank you so much for listening to "Rock Tonight" and for your very nice comments and suggestion! Yes, as per your suggestion, I will be bumping up the vocals a little bit for the re-mix.

Thanks again, and best wishes for a great evening!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:51:56 GMT

CLEAN: Hey, Mark, thanks for listening to this and for your nice comments! I always look forward to and appreciate your opinion.

By the way, I missed the first version of your song "Tahiti Sunrise" with Warren and Eva, but the new acoustic version that you just posted is absolutley beautiful, what a great piece of music!

Have a great night, buddy!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:39:21 GMT

blipp: Hi, Blipp, thank you very much for checking this out for me, I always look forward to your input!

Best wishes, have a great night!
Bob
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Electric Falcon: Hey, Bobby, thanks a lot, buddy, I really appreciate it!

Have a good one!
Bob
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Blurick: Hi, Rick, thanks so much for the encouraging words, I truly appreciate your comments!

Have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:30 GMT

The Kiosk Project: Hi, Garry, thank you, sir, I truly appreciate the listen and your comments!

Have a good one, my friend!
Bob
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evadianepug: Hey, Warren, how are things? I hope your sore knee is back in shape!

Thanks very much for checking out the song and for your kind words! I really appreciate it!

Have a good one!
Bob
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notnat: Hi, Frank, thanks for listening and for your encouraging comments! I always value your opinion highly!

Have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (Bob Oister)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:31:59 GMT

robby: Hey, that's great about redoing "I Love You Goodbye', you just made my day, I loved that song, and I'm also looking forward to your blues cover!

Yep, I definitely know what you mean about going back and re-recording and remixing stuff after learning more about the production process over time, that's what I've been doing the last couple of months.

Have a good one!
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mcourter: Hey, Mark, how are you, buddy? Doing great, I hope! Thanks for checking out "Rock Tonight" and for your kind comments.

Yeah, at times I find myself guilty of switching up my guitar tones from song to song. I think it's because I always bi-amp and sometimes tri-amp, so I always end up tweaking my core sound and experimenting to blend the different amps. I'm usually shooting for some combination of a modern "scooped" alternative metal sound mixed with a classic 80's rock/metal tone. Kind of like Boston, AC/DC and Motley Crue meet Nickelback, Sevendust and Killswitch Engage in a dark alley and mix it up! " />

Thanks again, Mark, I always look forward to your input. Have a great night!
Bob

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (karalie7@aol.com)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:50:04 GMT

The recording and mix are great. We love the vocal and harmony. The drumming and guitar are very good. Bring the vocal in alittle bit more. Great rock song.

Re:"Rock Tonight" Party Rock Anthem (CLEAN)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:37:11 GMT

Wow, what a kick ass tune - Bob, you blow me away - this really good.