input echo not loud enoug

Re:input echo not loud enoug (daveny5)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:08:49 GMT

roddey_phipps

i dont know how to calibrate, I admit. What I've done in the past, is turn the trim pot up to where the recorded track has crackles and pops.. i guessed that was clipping... then turn it down a notch, and all seemed fine.

My Mackie mixer came with instructions on how to set the trim levels. Have you read your mixer's manual?

Re:input echo not loud enoug (roddey_phipps)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:10:07 GMT

heh. well, thats just gonna have to go down a little farther on the list of "10 trillion things I have to learn about sonar and home recording". I can click the input echo button and hear the way it is now... i'll have to use that, for now

Re:input echo not loud enoug (Beagle)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:35:09 GMT

yes, I do this all the time, but my speakers are connected to the mixer outputs, not the outputs of the delta, set the outputs of the delta to some of the inputs of the mixer. setting up a mixer properly takes some work and understanding of their wiring schematic, but once you figure it out you can monitor from the mixer with 0 latency!

Re:input echo not loud enoug (roddey_phipps)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:01:47 GMT

"unless you're trying to record with FX in the FX bin of the track you're recording then you don't need the input echo button on - monitor from the mixer! "

um, i'll try this tonight... i've got two powered yamaha nearfield monitors hooked up directly to the Delta soundcard. If theres no FX in the bin for the track I'm recording, I should be able to hear it in real time, while i'm recording, along with everything else thats playing?

Re:input echo not loud enoug (roddey_phipps)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:53:30 GMT

i dont know how to calibrate, I admit. What I've done in the past, is turn the trim pot up to where the recorded track has crackles and pops.. i guessed that was clipping... then turn it down a notch, and all seemed fine.

Re:input echo not loud enoug (papa2005)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:16:43 GMT

Calibrate your mixer with Pink Noise or White Noise or a 1KHz sine wave tone to result in an I/O of 0dB. You can't physically adjust the levels of the 1010LT so it's dependent on the level you're sending to it. You've got to get it right at the Mackie in order to get it right from the 1010LT into SONAR.

Keep in mind, if you're recording at 24-bit resolution you don't have to worry about recording "hot".

Re:input echo not loud enoug (Beagle)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:50:10 GMT

unless you're trying to record with FX in the FX bin of the track you're recording then you don't need the input echo button on - monitor from the mixer!

Re:input echo not loud enoug (roddey_phipps)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:30:15 GMT

i run everything thru a Mackie mixer, and then direct outs, into a Delta 10/10LT soundcard. I probably had the trim on the Mackie channel turned down too low for what I'm doing. Part of my issue is, and I'm trying to figure out how to fix this, my computer is in one room, and the mixer with all my amps and drums and things, in another. So I have to adjust the trim and record, then go back to the computer to see what its doing. thats not the way to go, I know..

I just started the solo trip. Before I had everything set up to make live recordings of my band, so I had to have the mixer in where I was playing.

Re:input echo not loud enoug (CJaysMusic)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:17:34 GMT

You do not set your recording level in Sonar. This is done with everything before sonar. If its not loud enough, then your not requiring it at a proper level.
Also, what are you recording??
when soanr is in recording mode for a track, that tracks volume is controlled by everything before sonar.

Re:input echo not loud enoug (daveny5)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:22:39 GMT

What are you trying to record? If you're using a microphone or a guitar or bass, you need to go through a mixer or a preamp before going into the soundcard depending on what soundcard you're using. Most soundcards expect a line level signal. You should not be sending an amplified signal from a speaker or headphone output to the soundcard. That will cause distortion or could damage the soundcard.

You need to provide more info about your setup.

Re:input echo not loud enoug (roddey_phipps)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:44:25 GMT

a combination of all that seemed to work... making sure i have a hot enough signal at the trim, then turning the amp to the speakers way up, and then turning down all the other tracks playing. It still seems like the input echo is "weak" for playback, but, this seems to be an OK workaround.

Re:input echo not loud enoug (zungle)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:41:19 GMT

Raise the level on the "trim"

Re:input echo not loud enoug (RobertB)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:28:03 GMT

Check the level of the input at the sound card (before it gets to the audio track). The track fader has no effect on input levels.
Make sure everything is going to your master bus.
Try lowering the levels on the other tracks.
You could also use busses to manipulate the levels while you record. Lots of flexibility here. You don't need to think outside the box...just use the whole box.

input echo not loud enoug (roddey_phipps)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:06:27 GMT

I've noticed this a few times when recording an overdub. For some reason I cant get any real volume out of the input echo of the track I'm overdubbing. Is there any way to make this thing LOUDER? I've got the track fader all the way up and its just not as loud as the other instruments.