CPU performance meter not showing up properly

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (papa2005)

Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:41:20 GMT

Is your quad core dual duo core CPU's?

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (Crg)

Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:37:35 GMT

headsnack

Ok, so here's the answer.....

Spoke with Tyan (manufacturer of my motherboard) and it's supposed to work with Windows 7-64. However, after researching more, he said that Windows 7 Home Premium doesn't support quad core.

If you read this thread you'll find out that not only is this true, but that Microsoft are a bunch of shady dingleberries that don't even tell you this on their website:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/fi-FI/w7itproinstall/thread/87466df9-706b-4f40-9de7-d2bf435088eb

Does anybody here have more than one processor (like 2 dual cores) running Windows 7-64? What version of 7 are you using?

I'm using Win 7 Home Premium with a Q6600 quad core on an Intel DG 965 type Mobo and all of my cores are active and show in the large transport and all windows core monitoring. I would have to say Win 7 Home Premium does support Quad Core processing.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (headsnack)

Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:00:24 GMT

Exactly. It only supports one physical CPU. I should've specified that I am running 2 AMD dual cores. The hilarious thing is that Microsoft doesn't say this on their website that has a list of the differences between the versions. Needless to say I am going to get a copy of Ultimate a.s.a.p. Thanks to everybody for trying to help.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (brundlefly)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:06:50 GMT

However, after researching more, he said that Windows 7 Home Premium doesn't support quad core.

Home Premium supports processors with multiple logical cores, but not multiple physical CPUs. I'm gathering your AMD is really two dual-core processors. I should have picked that up from your original post. Kind of forgot Home Premium had that limitation. IIRC, the same has been true of all the non-"Pro" versions of Windows going back to XP.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (Keebo)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:21:12 GMT

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium and AMD quadcore here. Sonar's large taskbar shows four processors as well as in the task manager performance tab.

I haven't read the article yet but are saying the meters are just eye candy using Home Premium?

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (headsnack)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:26:28 GMT

Ok, so here's the answer.....

Spoke with Tyan (manufacturer of my motherboard) and it's supposed to work with Windows 7-64. However, after researching more, he said that Windows 7 Home Premium doesn't support quad core.

If you read this thread you'll find out that not only is this true, but that Microsoft are a bunch of shady dingleberries that don't even tell you this on their website:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/fi-FI/w7itproinstall/thread/87466df9-706b-4f40-9de7-d2bf435088eb

Does anybody here have more than one processor (like 2 dual cores) running Windows 7-64? What version of 7 are you using?

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (headsnack)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:12:42 GMT

Thank you so much for the replies.

Here's where it's weird and makes me think it's a motherboard issue. In the task manager, all 4 cores are recognized. However, when I look at actual real-time CPU usage, only 2 boxes are showing (this used to be 4 when I ran XP64Pro). I'm assuming that for some reason Windows 7 doesn't properly recognize all 4.

If I'm correct, then nothing really needs to be done with the Cakewalk ini, right?
If it's showing 2 in the large transport, then multi-core is obviously enabled, right?

Thanks again, guys!

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (ba_midi)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:54:40 GMT

brundlefly

From the help file: this line to the [WinCake] section of the Cakewalk.ini file: [WinCake] CPUMeterMode=0 The value determines the CPU meter mode: 0 = The peak thread load is displayed as the bar and a yellow indicator shows the average of all audio threads. This the default mode. 1 = The average audio thread load is displayed as the bar and a yellow indicator shows the peak thread. 2 = A bar is shown for each audio thread. This is the same display as previous versions of SONAR.

Hey Billy. I already posted that. But OP is saying even in the Large Transport, he only sees two of four "cores" (AMD). The CPUMeterMode setting should only affect the status bar.

I realized I pasted the wrong section - so I edited the message to include the cpu meter mode and the load balancing ini variable sections now.

Sorry to duplicate your info.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (brundlefly)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:49:51 GMT

From the help file: this line to the [WinCake] section of the Cakewalk.ini file: [WinCake] CPUMeterMode=0 The value determines the CPU meter mode: 0 = The peak thread load is displayed as the bar and a yellow indicator shows the average of all audio threads. This the default mode. 1 = The average audio thread load is displayed as the bar and a yellow indicator shows the peak thread. 2 = A bar is shown for each audio thread. This is the same display as previous versions of SONAR.

Hey Billy. I already posted that. But OP is saying even in the Large Transport, he only sees two of four "cores" (AMD). The CPUMeterMode setting should only affect the status bar.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (ba_midi)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:45:58 GMT

From the help file:

this line to the [WinCake] section of the Cakewalk.ini file:

[WinCake]

CPUMeterMode=0

The value determines the CPU meter mode:

0 = The peak thread load is displayed as the bar and a yellow indicator shows the average of all

audio threads. This the default mode.

1 = The average audio thread load is displayed as the bar and a yellow indicator shows the peak

thread.

2 = A bar is shown for each audio thread. This is the same display as previous versions of SONAR.

I know this isn't a solution, but it might help debug things. And this:

Initialization File Format

ThreadSchedulingModel=

<0 - 2>

Integer 1 This variable goes in the [Wave] section and controls

the interaction of the main audio thread and worker

threads on multiprocessor systems when the Use

Multiprocessing Engine option is enabled. Depending

on the system, a particular model may result in less

glitching and better overall performance. The values are

as follows:

0 = Same as previous versions of SONAR.

1 = (default) Better thread balance. Model is more

efficient and can provide cycles for other tasks.

2 = Additional worker thread is created. This may result

in improvement with Quad processor systems or higher.

Not recommended for Dual processor systems.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (brundlefly)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:38:35 GMT

Task manager shows all 4 cores, it doesn't tell me anything about sharing the load.

There should be four charts under CPU Usage History in Task Manager. The traces in those charts should all run at roughly the same level under load.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (headsnack)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:01:26 GMT

Task manager shows all 4 cores, it doesn't tell me anything about sharing the load. What feature inside of Windows can I run to find out if they're actually all being utilized?

The reason I'm stuck on them not displaying in sonar is because I feel like my performance has slowed down drastically from X64Pro to 7-64 which should be opposite. I've got 16gb of ram so stuff should be happening at lightening speed but I'm always watching the spinning circle when I try to save or process.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (brundlefly)

Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:40:23 GMT

Brundlefly, If I don't see all 4 meters in the large transport, is it my motherboard that's a problem? Do you think the Vista drivers will help?

I don't know. I never ran into that. Probably is an architecture thing. But if Task Manager shows all 4 cores sharing the load when you run a heavy project, I wouldn't worry about them not displaying in SONAR.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (headsnack)

Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:35:30 GMT

CJays, thanks for the quick reply. I was away on business and just got home to check my specs.

My motherboard is a TYAN S2927A2NRF Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 ATX Dual AMD Opteron.

I checked their website and the latest drivers they have for this is for Vista 64. Should I install those?

My task managers sees 4 cores. Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2214
shows up 4 times

My system says it's an ACPI x64-based PC.

Inside Cakewalk I'm looking at the large transport and see 2 bars. When I used to use XP64Pro with Sonar 8 I saw 4 bars.

Brundlefly,
If I don't see all 4 meters in the large transport, is it my motherboard that's a problem? Do you think the Vista drivers will help?

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (brundlefly)

Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:47:27 GMT

Reprinted form an earlier with the permission of the author (me):

The single average CPU meter in the status bar is the default for SONAR 8.5 (and maybe 8.0. too) You'll still see all four meters in the large transport (F4), and you can edit/add a key to Cakewalk.ini to cycle through the 4 meters in the status bar.

[Wincake]
CPUMeterMode=2

0 shows peak plus average (the default), 1 shows average only, and 2 cycles through the cores.

Re:CPU performance meter not showing up properly (CJaysMusic)

Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:13:45 GMT

Sonar can see as many cores as you have. Ive seen 8 cores and im sure it will see 16 cores. My 8.5 s's all 4 cores
Are you looking at the large transport? Do you have multi processing enabled(im sure you do, cause you see 2 cores).

What does your task manager see??
What dos the large transport see?

Ah, you upgraded to Win7 64bit. Did you ever download and Motherboard drivers or see if your Mobo supports Win7 64bit??

Cj

CPU performance meter not showing up properly (headsnack)

Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:56:34 GMT

I have a quad-core (2 dual AMD) and when I ran Sonar 8 on XP64 my CPU performance meter within Sonar used to have 4 bars. I upgraded to Windows 7/64 and Sonar 8.5 and now it only shows up as 2 bars. Is Sonar only using 2 of my 4 quad-cores? It seems like it might be because it takes a long time to save even though I have 16gb of ram. Please help!